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Originally Posted by RevdKathy
And a free prize to go along with it. Thanks again for the post!
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Next question is for yourself:
Do you trust that the community is capable of producing a production quality MeeGo or Maemo 6 for N900, if it had technical assistance by Nokia for driver issues? And would you use it?
Will MeeGo be available for the n900? Sure, I believe something approaching Meego will someday grace the n900. Will it be as good? Not until about the same time as MeeGo 3 is on store shelves (or in phones).
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Originally Posted by TheLongshot
When I bought my N900, I assumed it would at least be supported by Maemo 6, if not 7. It was probably already suspected by some that Nokia wouldn't take it beyond Fremantle, but I was unaware.
what has changed now to make you want to jump ship?
Originally Posted by TheLongshot
Don't get me wrong, I don't think that being unable to run the latest OS renders my device useless, and I've been very happy with my N900 so far. But I've been using Maemo since the 770, and I'm tired of Nokia's habit of dropping support for still-young hardware which would be perfectly capable of running the latest software. I'd be feeling the same way about the lack of N900 support in Harmattan even if there was no MeeGo merger. I'm holding onto my N900 for now, and I may well get a MeeGo phone in a couple years -- it just won't be a Nokia. Six months of software support for a €650 device is unacceptable to me.
I bought in because it was exactly the phone I was looking for: more computer than phone. And I've been quite happy with it, even with its flaws. Even if Nokia ended support for it tomorrow, I'd be fine with it. I know some of you out there with 770s, 800s and 810s aren't treating those like bricks. They still have use for those who own them.
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2010-02-21
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Originally Posted by mmurfin87
Mind sourcing this claim?
I have to say no, I don't believe this. Sure free software gets developed and some of it is ok or even good. Its a fact of history though, that if organizaiton A develops software with no expectation of money and organization B develops the software with a business model in mind, company B will always develop better software.
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2010-02-21
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Originally Posted by TheLongshot
First off, let me make a statement: The prospect that Hartmann might not be supported by Nokia on the N900 is something that was well known to the community before. That situation has not changed with the MeeGo announcement. Yet, many of us bought in despite that potential cloud over our heads. The question is, what were those reasons, and what has changed now to make you want to jump ship?
I bought in because it was exactly the phone I was looking for: more computer than phone. And I've been quite happy with it, even with its flaws. Even if Nokia ended support for it tomorrow, I'd be fine with it. I know some of you out there with 770s, 800s and 810s aren't treating those like bricks. They still have use for those who own them.
I'm more reassured by the QT support that will happen with both OSs, because it means that applications can cross-pollinate at the very least.
lol the N900 is the ONLY Maemo 5 device. THE ONLY ONE EVER.
this means all the little gritty things people create for it like hacks tricks tutorials will slow down dramaticcly as soon as MeeGo is released with a device. Maemo label will be forgotten along with the n900 project. I like to be part of a community with the device not on my own while a lot of people will be embrassin the next MeeGo device. a perfict example is the iphone OS which is the same on all their devices. i dont like iphones personlly and will never want to own one but the community is that massive once you jailbreak it there is an app/hack/slat you name it for everything. my friend even got an app which has the same multitasking window as the N900??? lol wdf didnt see that happening (after a jailbreak, apps in cydia).
i had a feeling from the start the n900 will not get maemo 6 but that has changed. now maemo 6 has become MeeGo with intels merger and will be used for many devices not just phones. this means the maemo 5 is over and done. that is a big change from just an OS upgrade. we are beta testers once again for a buggy device all round. the slider is scratching my device, i have a bright spot, when i tap the screen it creaks and god forbid my usb port comes out. software wise dont get me started, i cant belive exchange support still doesnt work for me. over it. reminds me of when i got my N95. this is going to come out wrong but nokia owe us for all these reasons. the n900 was supposed to be a saviour but its not looking that way. its just another beta test for the next device. u watch and tell me i was wrong when everything goes to sh*t. this isnt about QT, QT is great but not enough to fix maemo 5.
I think the issue has become nokia is aware most of the n900 community has been fighting over this and might just need to release a statement for us with a definitive answer. This fear of missing out is human nature, no one wants to be on the sidelines. To much beating around the bush from nokia.
One last thing. when nokia were developing Maemo5 and the N900, the plans for a merger were most likely happening during the development stage of the device. So it is very unlucky that we got maemo5 and no one else will. Another situation I would like is if nokia just abandon Maemo5 and give the MeeGo OS to the N900. maybe even the N810, N800 and N770 after all its a multiple device OS platform.
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2010-02-21
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Originally Posted by mmurfin87
Right you are, just look at how much better is the IIS compared to the Apache, it's clear that Apache is on its deathbed. Not to mention how TCP/IP, HTTP and the web itself are clearly way more sucky than all those proprietary BBSes...
Its a fact of history though, that if organizaiton A develops software with no expectation of money and organization B develops the software with a business model in mind, company B will always develop better software.
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2010-02-21
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
I'm legitimately wondering about the answers to those questions, and the fact that the answers remain unknown is frustrating to me. I wouldn't say worrisome, because I do like my N900 as is... I was just expecting it to get at least the measly year of support that the 770 saw. Nokia has abandoned every Maemo device before its time, while Apple is still supporting the original iPhone with the latest OS. I'm not about to buy an iPhone though, so it's great MeeGo and Android are open. I can just move to another manufacturer with longer-term support in a couple years. Until then, I'll enjoy my N900 and hope that the optimists are right about the new apps MeeGo will bring to Maemo 5.
Nop, my post says you're beating the wrong horses and you need to be asking these questions instead as they are far more important and precise for your device future.
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2010-02-21
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Executive summary, my way;
Stop nagging and help debugging. Dont worry about the future or money. Thats why its called open source. Have some patience, be constructive, try to help ( we all need help, even a proffessional ). _Almost_ everything can be solved, its just a matter of compiling.
Stop nagging and help debugging. Dont worry about the future or money. Thats why its called open source. Have some patience, be constructive, try to help ( we all need help, even a proffessional ). _Almost_ everything can be solved, its just a matter of compiling.
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2010-02-21
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Originally Posted by anonym
That's the core of problem here. Nokia advertised N900 as real breakthrough in mobile devices and once they got some revenue out of it, they said something like "oops, Maemo 5 and N900 was mistake. From now on we will do it better, with Intel.. Sorry, N900 users..."
Six months of software support for a €650 device is unacceptable to me.
Where am I wrong at that thinking?
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2010-02-21
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Originally Posted by mlb
That's the core of problem here. Nokia advertised N900 as real breakthrough in mobile devices and once they got some revenue out of it, they said something like "oops, Maemo 5 and N900 was mistake. From now on we will do it better, with Intel.. Sorry, N900 users..."
Where am I wrong at that thinking?
dont care what anyone says your right. N900 and maemo 5 was a beta test for nokia. they better at least fix ALL the bugs before they stop updating it.
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