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2010-03-16
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#61
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Originally Posted by lemmyslender
No, no, it was definitely a problem in my app. I just don't understand why it doesn't work for you with the -c, while it does without it. No clue (this is not how bash or zsh would behave, maybe it's ash specific or something. No clue really) But anyway, it works now!
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2010-03-16
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just to point out that it would be very nice if Erminig-NG
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40408
has a new version that enables command line support for synchronizing specific google calenders.
That then Alarmed would have the same kind of integration with it so it is very easy to create sync intervals with a goolge calendar through Erminig-NG by using alarmed
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40408
has a new version that enables command line support for synchronizing specific google calenders.
That then Alarmed would have the same kind of integration with it so it is very easy to create sync intervals with a goolge calendar through Erminig-NG by using alarmed
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2010-03-16
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Originally Posted by jcompagner
When there already is command line support why not just putting this command line in a command execution entry? Not everything should be implemented as a builtin command. I'd say, these should be rather complicated or at least very common tasks.
just to point out that it would be very nice if Erminig-NG
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40408
has a new version that enables command line support for synchronizing specific google calenders.
That then Alarmed would have the same kind of integration with it so it is very easy to create sync intervals with a goolge calendar through Erminig-NG by using alarmed
In the end it also may be more usable having a bunch of shell scripts each one for a special task, which can then be called by any widget or app that is able to call a script. DCE, alarmed or even a self created desktop file could invoke the script and perform the task.
Flexibility rules!
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2010-03-16
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Originally Posted by x-lette
Agreed. The next version of erminig is supposed to have command line syncing available. I have 3-5 calendars I plan on syncing, but not necessarily all the calendars every time.
When there already is command line support why not just putting this command line in a command execution entry? Not everything should be implemented as a builtin command. I'd say, these should be rather complicated or at least very common tasks.
In the end it also may be more usable having a bunch of shell scripts each one for a special task, which can then be called by any widget or app that is able to call a script. DCE, alarmed or even a self created desktop file could invoke the script and perform the task.
Flexibility rules!
Maybe just a generic "sync all calendars" as a builtin and leave the personal tweaking to the command execution.
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2010-03-16
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Originally Posted by x-lette
because of the simple fact that everything should be as simple as possible.
When there already is command line support why not just putting this command line in a command execution entry? Not everything should be implemented as a builtin command. I'd say, these should be rather complicated or at least very common tasks.
Why do i need to know what scripts there are somewhere on the file system?
Why do i need to know how to call those scripts? What parameters it does want?
Why do we have tweakr integration? Couldnt that be done with a simple command line entry???
Please remove tweakr integration then because that i dont need and everybody that needs it can do that through the command line just fine just like you say.
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2010-03-16
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Hi, I finally got alarmed to install, but am having problems with switching the profile to silent, when i run ash tweakerprofileswitcher.sh Silent, it says No such profile: Silent
Though it works for other profiles
Though it works for other profiles
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2010-03-16
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Originally Posted by markedsword
You are running tweakrprofileswitcher.sh from the command line? If so, use "silent", not "Silent". Capitalization matters, and internally the silent profile uses a lower case "s". It's only listed as "Silent" in the menus for aesthetic reasons.
Hi, I finally got alarmed to install, but am having problems with switching the profile to silent, when i run ash tweakerprofileswitcher.sh Silent, it says No such profile: Silent
Though it works for other profiles
Other then that, the builtin tweakr profile switching functions should now work, so you don't actually need to use the "command execution" thing anymore for this task.
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about erminig:
I don't use erminig (I use nuevasync), so I don't know about all this. if those who are interested want me to include this functionality as a builtin this is certainly no hard task, but I ask you to supply the respective command lines needed for this to work once that fabled new version is out.
Originally Posted by jcompagner
Not that I care much, but this is a bit of a non-argument, because there _isn't_ a simple command line entry for this. tweakr doesn't ship with a script to do this from the CLI. The one I use I found on the forums and adjusted it to fit into alarmed.
Why do we have tweakr integration? Couldnt that be done with a simple command line entry???
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2010-03-16
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That's odd, running the same way with silent still does not work.
Also i'm also having trouble with the profile switching in Alarmed, (simply doesn't change the profile)
I ran the command in the alarmd_config.ini, and it says ash: file not found
Also i'm also having trouble with the profile switching in Alarmed, (simply doesn't change the profile)
I ran the command in the alarmd_config.ini, and it says ash: file not found
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2010-03-16
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Originally Posted by jcompagner
Even if at first glance it looks like being simple putting it all in one application, hiding everything from the poor user who might be overcharged by this kind of low level configuration: it is not. This is the MS Windows approach and in the end it failed. Maemo is running linux and in this world there is one elementary rule: let the user decide what he wants to do. It's a bit harder to get into it but in the end the users are more satisfied and more productive. This is my experience.
because of the simple fact that everything should be as simple as possible.
I don't want all the users out there to throw away their desktops and only use commandline from now on. Not at all. But giving the user the possibility to build his own "toolchain" will end up in a system that can get as much personalized as possible.
I really want to vote for good applications with a well defined target functionality that are reduced to this core functionality. And I don't like programs that try to invent the wheel over and over again and replicate other's functionality just to save the user one or two klicks.
There might be other helper apps that bind together several applications and their functionality. And there might be ready-to-use scripts shipped with an application. That's OK. It's also OK having 'wizards' that guide you through the process of selecting tasks and generating scripts or commands. But please let every program do just what it is intended for and not more.
Why do i need to know what scripts there are somewhere on the file system?
Why do i need to know how to call those scripts? What parameters it does want?
Why do we have tweakr integration? Couldnt that be done with a simple command line entry???
Please remove tweakr integration then because that i dont need and everybody that needs it can do that through the command line just fine just like you say.
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2010-03-16
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Originally Posted by x-lette
really... I really hope that this attitude is not nokia's/Intels idea for the future of MeeGo because that will then be a loosing battle.
You're right. There is no need for you (I mean the average user) to know all the details. But in this community there are many people who know about the internals and who are willing to help you collecting the needed stuff and building exactly that task you want to run. And the more help you get, the more you learn, the less help you need in future, the more help you can give to others....
I am not an average user, i can work with xterm and stuff like that. No problem but really a phone should be simple. Setting up a sync for multiply google calc should be easy to do for average users. And no average users are not here on these forums they are my not so techie brother, sister or dad.. So where do the learn that what you propose?
For phones i do believe that completely hiding the filesystem is the futher. For us tech users there must always be a way to do everything we want. But not for the average users. The average users shouldnt see a filesystem, Shouldnt have to type in "cd /" or "ls -l". They shouldnt know that in / is root and there we have 50MB free but in "/home/opt" you have 2GB free. This should all be completely hidden for an average user.
But to come back to the tweakr stuff. So if you have already a "tweakerprofileswitcher.sh" bash file, so why the integration? Just call that file from an external command...
Not that i say we should do that. Because i do believe in the opposite...
I do believe in small programs do one thing and do one thing well.
So Erminig-NG takes care of google stuff, and Alarmed is the timer event for it.
The communication is just external (asking what calenders it can sync) and then calling a specific calendar at a certain period to sync.
Its exactly they way i would like this stuff.
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