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2010-04-22
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Originally Posted by silvermountain
Read the initial article...
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2010-04-22
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Originally Posted by Texrat
No need to apologize; I was trying to keep the focus on my words and intent and not any personal feelings. No need for those in a discussion on this subject. That way, we avoid locking horns and keep discussing...
Gerbick my apologies; I wasn't meaning to be personal, just noting what has been my observation when we lock horns. You've even acknowledged that tendency before so I didn't think the comment would be an issue.
I'm also confused by your rebuttal above based on your choice to rebut me earlier. But maybe my position was unclear. Your replies certainly are now to me...
Anyway I'm spent on this and was hoping to keep the talk at a higher level. Too many passions appear to have been ignited for that though so I'm taking 5.
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2010-04-22
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Originally Posted by x61
I read the quote that you replied to.
Read the initial article...
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2010-04-22
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Originally Posted by gerbick
And as I just said, I fully agree. In fact any regular here should know that by now as much as I've hammered the point over the past 5 years. It's just that the usual topic creep got out of control and once the cat was out of the bag resistance was futile. I reaize some people want to selectively focus on little parcels of the subject to the exclusion of other aspects but it's way too big to whittle down like some are trying.
I twisted a bit to play devil's advocate but my stance remains the same. The freedom granted by the N900 was not utilized correctly by Nokia. In fact, please read fatalsaint's excellent reply earlier. He basically has stated more clearly than I ever could what I totally mean. .
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2010-04-22
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and just like i mentioned in my previous post and all other posts on this specific issue, its becomes a war btw the ppl who believe that n900 was justmade for linux lovers and developers and programmers and not for the general public.
and like always this entire convo or debate or argument just doesnt go anywhere, all these die hard linux lovers nokia defenders talk alot and have a giant arsonal of fancy words and fancy explanations but really what exactly have they brought themselves on the table to defend the OS or Nokia, or let's even subtract them outta picture and what eactly has nokia done in reflection to all these comments or all of those other threads. if you really ask me nothing,nothing at all.
As much as I love my n900 for its hardware power which is second to non we should all accept that N900 sucks A** when it comes to softweare and i blame Nokia in all entirety..Now having said that I know for fact im gonna get bombarded again with those linux lovers & nokia defenders but hey man as yall have a thing to defend nokia after all that I have a thing to poitn teh fact out...
and like always this entire convo or debate or argument just doesnt go anywhere, all these die hard linux lovers nokia defenders talk alot and have a giant arsonal of fancy words and fancy explanations but really what exactly have they brought themselves on the table to defend the OS or Nokia, or let's even subtract them outta picture and what eactly has nokia done in reflection to all these comments or all of those other threads. if you really ask me nothing,nothing at all.
As much as I love my n900 for its hardware power which is second to non we should all accept that N900 sucks A** when it comes to softweare and i blame Nokia in all entirety..Now having said that I know for fact im gonna get bombarded again with those linux lovers & nokia defenders but hey man as yall have a thing to defend nokia after all that I have a thing to poitn teh fact out...
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2010-04-22
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Originally Posted by junooni
This is still inaccurate. Apple did not make the 1 million apps in their App Store. Google does not make but a tiny tiny fraction of like 5 total apps in their Market.
As much as I love my n900 for its hardware power which is second to non we should all accept that N900 sucks A** when it comes to softweare and i blame Nokia in all entirety..Now having said that I know for fact im gonna get bombarded again with those linux lovers & nokia defenders but hey man as yall have a thing to defend nokia after all that I have a thing to poitn teh fact out...
As far as applications go - that is on the community.
As far as the operating system goes - that is on the Core Group (be them Nokia, Intel, Ubuntu, or whatever.)
The Operating System and default apps for the phone should be completely functional and bug-free. That is up to Nokia to ensure. As well, Nokia should have ensured a certain level of compatibility with their other "steps" of tablets. Nokia should also legitimately confirm or deny things as far as the future of the OS/project instead of hints here and there; or with a denial try and "spin" it to a positive with a "BUT" which just clouds the issue more.
These are faults that can be directed to Nokia. The amount of Apps or quality of Apps I don't really fault Nokia for. All the tools are there to make great apps... it's getting a "community" motivated enough to do so is the problem.
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2010-04-22
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@fatalsaint: the platform's steward/owner is generally the one that designs and operates the ecosystem and its incentive systems to propel it in a certain direction. (parts of the ecosystem: dev tools, dev reachout and guidance programs, marketplace, marketing, etc)
Is simply being 'open' enough to motivate the (potential) developers here to compete against those that are in Apple or Android camp? Is this even a competition in that sense?
Is simply being 'open' enough to motivate the (potential) developers here to compete against those that are in Apple or Android camp? Is this even a competition in that sense?
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2010-04-22
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There was an excellent series of articles in this week's Economist (tomorrow the new issue comes out) about developing countries and how they are beating other countries because they are focusing on making things that poor people can afford and figuring out how to go low-cost. Nokia was one of the few companies mentioned that understood this and was joining in the low-cost fight.
For an example, they said that a machine used to do open-heart surgery can be bought in I think India for something like $3,000. In the US a similar machine would cost ten times as much. The Economist added that the two machines had similar success rates. That was just one example of how these countries are cutting health care costs.
For an example, they said that a machine used to do open-heart surgery can be bought in I think India for something like $3,000. In the US a similar machine would cost ten times as much. The Economist added that the two machines had similar success rates. That was just one example of how these countries are cutting health care costs.
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2010-04-22
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Originally Posted by ysss
Well.. of the millions of Linux applications out there how many were made under a contest? And how many were made because someone wanted to support the platform or OS?
@fatalsaint: the platform's steward/owner is generally the one that designs and operates the ecosystem and its incentive systems to propel it in a certain direction. (parts of the ecosystem: dev tools, dev reachout and guidance programs, marketplace, marketing, etc)
Is simply being 'open' enough to motivate the (potential) developers here to compete against those that are in Apple or Android camp? Is this even a competition in that sense?
Does Ubuntu do developer "shoot offs" with rewards for the best app or anything?
I'm not saying they don't... just.. never seen one personally.
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2010-04-22
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I believe this phone still has the potential to be an iphone killer... ppl all round the world still have their eyes on this device.. The OS is awesome, but not what end users are looking for..
I really don't get what nokia is upto ?!
I really don't get what nokia is upto ?!
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