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#61
Originally Posted by kd_alex View Post
I hope you guys don't scare the OP away with your lessons on logic and rhetoric.
Can we scare him to the stickied topic at the top of this forum that already covers *all* this, and more, better? Or do we have to relive it, over and over? Is this some cosmic curse that has befallen us, the users of maemo. Why? WHY??????

And when is the Spit Roast? I'm getting hungry.
 

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I say return it. I've decided.
 

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Originally Posted by dbl2010 View Post
Well when you purchase something, you have an assumption:"The device will work properly."
There are some aspects where the N900 under-performs and some where it excels. It depends on what's important to you. There are billions of threads on the "problems" the device has, and a few on solutions to common issues. You have to be careful what you read here though, since many of the whiners are people that haven't bothered to do basic searches here for their problem.

For example, there are dozens of threads of people selling/returning their phone because it "doesn't support MMS". There is a free, community-supported app that handles MMS in an integrated and functional way. Some just didn't find it, others chose to use semantics to justify their pre-conceived stance.

My advice: Look at the complaints and the ads, and determine what's most important to you. Then start another thread, and ask how those specific features work, and what alternatives exists if that functionality is lacking for what you want to use it for.

For me, I wanted a device that was stable, could browse the web (with full support), make/receive calls and texts, be constantly on-line via IM, and which I and others could develop apps for independent of the phone vendor. Those key points were all met by the N900, and have not yet been met by iPhone, Android or any other mobile device I've found.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
I'd prefer one where the USB port doesn't fall out under normal usage and to avoid it, I have to shave down the micro-USB plugs.
This is not a Nokia or N900-specific bug. This is the nature of these connectors, and the N900 is not unique in using them. Many devices that use micro and/or mini USB plugs are seeing this type of failure. I actually had my GPS drop it's mini-USB plug out last month after months of use. I even posted pictures of it here, showing how it broke just like a few N900 users have seen their ports fail. Any device that uses surface mount ports (including the iPhone) has potential to have this issue.
 

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#64
LOL that was more than I need Thanks everybody, really. Keep it in peace thou,

You guys right, I haven't specified my motivation explicitly on buying this model.

1. I love Nokia hardware
2. I hate Nokia software (especially lately) but because I love Linux, N900 could be a turning point.
3. I am not a basic user, I am a geek. It is fun to tweak the device settings by finding the solution from Internet :P It is nice to ssh, right small scripts etc.
4. Fanciness? Yes I like to have a cool device in my hand.
5. Price? Yes I know I bought it cheap, and thats a big plus.

I think I will keep it.
 
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Originally Posted by dbl2010 View Post
2. I hate Nokia software (especially lately) but because I love Linux, N900 could be a turning point.
3. I am not a basic user, I am a geek. It is fun to tweak the device settings by finding the solution from Internet :P It is nice to ssh, right small scripts etc.
Then congrats & welcome, you've already got the best phone there is.
 

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#66
BTW,

I was browsing MeeGo site for a while. It seems like, Intel shows more ownership than Nokia. Basically, they renamed Moblin to MeeGo, and let Nokia participate. If you look at the source file trees and etc, a lot of them are from Moblin. Overall Project managers, admins are all from Intel side.

It is not hard to guess that, Nokia found this partnership as a solution to their outdated, bad Software strategy. So they plan that, someone else will create software for them as well while they are creating for their own product anyways. But because someone else have other higher priorities (ie intel atom) the support that Nokia expects will be always late and low quality.
 
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notice hoe every person that slates it has under 200 posts.
 
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Originally Posted by dbl2010 View Post
LOL that was more than I need Thanks everybody, really. Keep it in peace thou,

You guys right, I haven't specified my motivation explicitly on buying this model.

1. I love Nokia hardware
2. I hate Nokia software (especially lately) but because I love Linux, N900 could be a turning point.
3. I am not a basic user, I am a geek. It is fun to tweak the device settings by finding the solution from Internet :P It is nice to ssh, right small scripts etc.
4. Fanciness? Yes I like to have a cool device in my hand.
5. Price? Yes I know I bought it cheap, and thats a big plus.

I think I will keep it.
Sounds to me like you made the right choice. Tweak with care and you'll have no problems in my experience.
 
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#69
If you're into linux and words like "ssh" and "xorg" make your ears perk up, then N900 is the dream phone, keep it and be proud that you got such a cheap price compared to the rest of us.

I also went from N95 to N900. They are different, and yes N900 has many problems (as did the N95 for the first year) but to me I still prefer N900.

It's a real linux computer in your pocket. There's nothing else that can compare. You have your options of C, C++, perl, python, ruby, etc. and toolkits choice gtk+, Qt and so on. It's basically all of the options you'd have on a desktop Linux machine. All the familiar GNU tools and hundreds of open-source apps are available. And with Qole's easy-debian you really have almost a full desktop system in your hand.

If, however, you want commercial apps and games, then run away fast...

Yes, my N95 has many features and software I wish my N900 had, but I still prefer N900 easily.
 
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#70
Originally Posted by dbl2010 View Post
BTW,

I was browsing MeeGo site for a while. It seems like, Intel shows more ownership than Nokia. Basically, they renamed Moblin to MeeGo, and let Nokia participate. If you look at the source file trees and etc, a lot of them are from Moblin. Overall Project managers, admins are all from Intel side.

It is not hard to guess that, Nokia found this partnership as a solution to their outdated, bad Software strategy. So they plan that, someone else will create software for them as well while they are creating for their own product anyways. But because someone else have other higher priorities (ie intel atom) the support that Nokia expects will be always late and low quality.
Do you count the Qt framwork?
 
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