That should certainly be the goal, but if the offender is a sociopath, and many are, a moderator will never succeed in that. In fact it will likely backfire.

Moderators should enter as idealists and act as realists.

I agree with you that many act like sociopaths, but that doesn't make them true ones for sure... I avoid using any kinda of labels for people i do not know in person... Especially when it comes to Inet... 'cause the Inet is the perfect place for people to play roles...
Actually we all know that fighting trolling is a hard and long pursuit... Though i do not entirely agree with you that an ignored troll is an escalating one... He is triple times an escalating troll if you ban him/close his thread/delete his post etc...
Probably we all should make some efforts not noticing trolling posts... In time they will get less I am sure... and it is not an idealism...

BTW a very simple tech feature helps too... Some forums do not allow you to make another post if you are the last that have posted on the thread (mostly it is done client side but still it helps). This way if a troll doesn't get answers on his thread he cannot make the thread show up as active... Anyway it is just a proposal...

As for the idealism and realism... Its good to be an idealist but not so good to become a mod that way... 'cause it will lead to disappointments and there is only one small step to hard handed moderation from there

Phobosk, as someone who has moderated for around 20 years I go by what I've experienced. For the most part the judgment about sociopaths and trolling has been on target. Ignoring just does not work with the determined sorts. Granted that banning is also met with resistance by these types, but at least it can be quick and more or less invisible. Letting them have a degree of passive-aggressive control over the forum and naively hoping someday they'll go away is just way too disruptive to the forum and unfair to those who don't engage in that behavior.

You lack imagination. Are you new to these devices? I have a 7-year-old Sharp Zaurus that I can get a fresh kernel on any time I want it.

And with all due respect, I haven't seen anything on MeeGo yet that would make me want to fire up the Flasher.

This is where it starts with me... Who is the us you are referring to in your post?
(emphasis mine)

Whenever I see these all inclusive pronouns I get annoyed. I think the poster is not being genuine and instead looking for rabble to rouse.

Nokia didn't leave me anywhere. They provided a device that is future proof until a new technology comes along that the hardware can't support.

Look around and you will see kernels being compiled and new functions being explored in photography to name just one use. I recently compiled my complete record collection in 192 bit WMA Pro, loaded it on my N900 and carry all 15 + gig of it with me everywhere I go. Nokia provided the hardware to enable me to squirt it to any FM receiver I find but with this communities involvement right here in this forum, we were able to enhance this function to the point where I can sit in a bar and play my music through their sound system wireless like. One bartender (Thanks Ed) went as far as to buy a Nokia charger and he keeps it behind the bar for when I come in.

As more and more of us are doing things like this with Nokia supplied hardware, it is putting enormous pressure on additional community developed enhancements and they will continue to come.

Just wait till you see what the community will do with the enhanced search that Nokia recently provided across the platform with PR 1.2

You say you want to be educated. Why don't you start >> HERE << then, instead of requesting that someone provide you with that education.

And this isn't Apple. If you bought a device because you wanted everything provided for you and you don't have the time or energy to learn and do it for yourself, that's OK by me but if you bought the N900 for this, then you bought the wrong device... simple azat.

With the N900 you can make your own dang applications, compile your own dang kernel, and load, view, and share your own dang content. If you could do that with any Apple product, that would make headlines too!

Good luck with your quest for an education on this subject. There is plenty of free material available on the maemo.org sites that you can access from the navigation bar at the top of this very page you are looking at.

If after that you need any further clarification or help, feel free to PM me and I will try my best or at least point you in the right direction. Until then, please leave me out of any "us" that you feel you are speaking for.

so a take kit tht everyone is fine with having an unsuported device so soon after buying into it?

Get one of these dude...



...and you will always be supported.

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This community still supports the 770.

Dredging up this post means either you haven't a clue about where the real support comes from or you are an anus weasel intent on creating more forum BS.

I'd like to think you are the former but in either case there is no need for anyone, including yourself to respond in this thread.

If you are in fact clueless please look around at any on topic thread and you may begin to understand what support actually is. If you are the latter and your purpose is to promote things of the anus weasel nature, nothing anyone says will matter to you anyway.

Considering he's the one who started this thread in the first place, I call hamster.

Good call!

In that case I will dredge up and quote wmarone's reply from the first page...

If we also include making crap up out of thin air that^ could be the start of the WiKipedia description of the typical Anus Weasel, also known as the common rectal rodent.

Does anyone see any value in this thread at this point?

I sure don't.