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2010-06-09
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Originally Posted by pantera1989
I use openssh on all my machines, and use sftp/scp with a side of rsync for such work.
Can you send data over Wi-Fi? I've been wanting to access my PC using the N900 and vice-versa to transfer files. Used to do that on my N95.
I think there's also some support for SMB/CIFS in Maemo, but I have no use for that, and haven't been curious enough to mess with it since Chinook days, so I have no idea what the current state is.
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2010-06-09
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Originally Posted by andraeseus1
And here is where I'll probably sound like I'm double-talking (bear with me) but honestly... the openness of Maemo means that the things it cannot do right now, the community or some enterprising programmer can make it happen.
ok.. nopw i understand. that makes perfect since. i wonder if we can start some threads (with adequet research of course) listing the things that folks might want to know about. only the stuff that phone A "CANT DO" or things that phone b "CANT DO" i hate when you read these reviews and they are totally one sided you know. imo engadget is one of the ones i am talking about. i wish people could just put the facts out there and let people decide for themselves. i would love a web site that i know i could get a unbiased list of do's and donts. and i dont just mean 5 mp camera or not. i mean intricate things liek some of the stuff mentioned here that will bug the crap out of you afdter you already popped for + 400 bucks on a device. the websites only say the good things. i only want to know the bad things. its easy to find the do's hard to find the don'ts
Case in point MMS. People were going nuts that a phone released in 2009 didn't have MMS - which, I thought was part of the GSM certification, apparently not.
Well, fMMS came about and I'll be damned if it doesn't add that functionality to the phone. Don't want it, don't install it. Want it? Install it and configure it to your network. Pretty darn cool.
You can't say the same on the non-jailbroken iPhone. I see both sides of the fence - I'm an iPhone owner - but the list of things that the N900 can't do can be shortened if this community decided to code and do stuff as they argue about nothing.
Well that and if you start that kind of thread around here, you'll be labeled a troll, posting flamebait... whereas a thread like this is "ok" it seems.
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Yeah I set up an SSH server and VNC server..but I don't like the idea of VNC at all. Not very safe. And I did manage to get it to work with SSH..but I was more interested in the other way round. Access files from my N900 and copy them from my PC to the N900.
The USB cable is not very reliable. I can't connect the mass memory due to it being used by a process to often. And more often than not I'd have to restart to be able to connect the mass memory.
The USB cable is not very reliable. I can't connect the mass memory due to it being used by a process to often. And more often than not I'd have to restart to be able to connect the mass memory.
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2010-06-09
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Originally Posted by gerbick
It's a big one for a lot of people here. Here's the big difference: If I don't want Flash on my N900, I can disable the plugin in MicroB. Done. No more Flash. If I do want Flash on my iPhone.... I'm screwed. Done.
I don't get how the "No Flash" support is a bulletpoint.
I'd call that a pretty big bulletpoint if you want Flash.
Originally Posted by gerbick
True that. Fanboys are ageless.
Replace "Apple" with "Microsoft" and you have the 90's all over. Replace "Apple" with "IBM" and you have the 80's.
Originally Posted by imperiallight
I'm sorry, but since less than 2% of iPhone owners will ever jailbreak their device, I don't count it as a valid solution. It invalidates your warranty, and technically your contract not only with Apple, but in the US also with the provider (AT&T). They've actively blocked updates in the past for JB devices, and on a few occasions people have bricked their iPhone either trying to JB or trying to update after a JB.
Ok, at Bensons req.
JB iBlueNova for any file transfer
JB & ....
JB & ....
That's a strong point of the N900. You want root on the device? Done. You want to access things at the core of the device? Have at it. You can always re-flash it yourself with a freely provided stock image and bring it back to a known starting point. Apple is not as forth coming with their firmware images, and the iPhone doesn't have a fail-safe way to re-flash an otherwise bricked phone. (Open-Apple+U while powering on maybe?)
Proof of the point: A friend of mine (with an iPhone) and I both took video of a party at a third friends place. The third friend wanted a copy of both videos for his own archives. None of us had a micro USB cable, or the iPhone cable (or iTunes). I was able to send it via bluetooth to his laptop on the spot, and lacking that I could have shared it to Facebook or a couple other places and shared it there. Bluetooth took a while, but by time the party was winding up, he had his copy. My iPhone friend had to go home, find his cable, update iTunes, and then had to find a place to upload it to, since it was too large to e-mail. :P Oh, and it was in an odd format that my third friend had to convert into something else in order to view it.
There are some things an open system can do better. Features and functions are going to be better on an open system. With closed systems you can control stability and product feel better, which the iPhone does well, but it does so at a price.
As for the OP, yeah, I'm not a fan of iPhone bashing in general. But at the same time I think it's good to see a list of differences, since we do constantly get bashed for not being like and iPhone. Usually people whine about how the N900 is harder to update/maintain, etc, vs the iPhone. That's the price to pay for the extra functionality. (And if you jailbreak an iPhone and load it full of crap 3rd party stuff, it stutters and fails too. Just with less of a safety net if something goes seriously wrong.
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2010-06-09
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Originally Posted by pantera1989
Yeah, like I said. Install openssh (or some other ssh server) on the PC, and use scp/sftp, or if you like, maybe gftp. (Y'know, I didn't even mention VNC, although I have used it some, because I was talking about file transfer...)
Yeah I set up an SSH server and VNC server..but I don't like the idea of VNC at all. Not very safe. And I did manage to get it to work with SSH..but I was more interested in the other way round. Access files from my N900 and copy them from my PC to the N900.
The USB cable is not very reliable. I can't connect the mass memory due to it being used by a process to often. And more often than not I'd have to restart to be able to connect the mass memory.
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Woody, you have greatly changed your tone from the beginning to now. I'm glad to see that your intelligence (I knew it was there) is coming out finally 100%.
Congrats and keep doing it. You're becoming (if not already) an asset to this community.
Congrats and keep doing it. You're becoming (if not already) an asset to this community.
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2010-06-09
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Originally Posted by apcoelho
How do you set it up to pick up any wifi? Mine requires me to manually opt-in to every wifi network, which is annoying if you want to steal open wifis.
Tired of seeing posts about people saying they will change to iphone, the door is wide open but donīt forget this list of simple stuff Iphone should do and it doesnīt, and N900 does:
I want to send a mp3 file over bluetooth ... oh wait ... i canīt
I want to download a file from a webpage to keep it on my cellphone... oh wait... I canīt
I want to attach a MP3 file to an email so I can send it to my friends.... oh wait... I canīt
I want to make a SIP call from my phone ... oh wait .... I can, but I have to open the SIP software before...
I want to make a video call to my friends computer .... Oh wait... my friend has to have an Iphone 4g ...
I want to have another browser I donīt like mine ... oh wait... I canīt
I have an "non 3g Ipad" and I want to connect to the internet through my iphone... oh wait ... I canīt
I want use my iphone as a 32 or 16gb Pen Drive... oh wait ... I canīt
I want to customize my desktop to my needs ... oh wait... I canīt and my grandpaīs iphone Is almost the same config as mine...
I want widgets so I can quicky access essencial Info... oh wait ... I canīt
I want to see the adress of one company but their site is made in flash technology... oh wait ... I canīt
I only want to be online everytime it detects wifi, my carrier doesnīt have a great data plan... oh wait... I canīt
I want to be able to delete data from the phone memory... oh wait ... I canīt, have to do it from Itunes...
I want to play videos on my phone without having to convert them... oh wait... I canīt
I need subtitles on my videos ... oh wait... I canīt
A friend on mine wants to see jizzhut or porntube videos online ... he canīt ... and he shouldnīt...
As you can see Iīm not talking about Gyroscopes, multitouch and other fancy stuff, Iīm talking about simple things.
If I left my N900 to an iphone I would miss this and much more.
Iīm talking about a standard iphone , anyway, 90% of this stuff not even jailbroken...
I love my N900 but lets face it ... itīs not perfect, has some flaws depending on the needs of its user. Its like buying a Ferrari and say its too noisy or uncomfortable, for that kind of customer you have a Mercedes S500... but will have its flaws too, it wonīt be quick and sporty enough .... Nothing is perfect for everyone.
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2010-06-09
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There are some things an open system can do better. Features and functions are going to be better on an open system. With closed systems you can control stability and product feel better, which the iPhone does well, but it does so at a price.
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Woody, you have greatly changed your tone from the beginning to now. I'm glad to see that your intelligence (I knew it was there) is coming out finally 100%.
Congrats and keep doing it. You're becoming (if not already) an asset to this community.
Hmm.. How to take that... It's kinda a backhanded comment, no?Like, "Damn, you're not half as ugly as you were 5 years ago..."
Did you just call me ugly?
I think it's less of a change in tone and more that we just started out on the wrong foot.
I do like where this thread is going though overall. As someone said earlier, a reverse decay into something useful.
Anyway, nice to see some reverse thread decay - a bashing tthread evolving into one where people are complimentary and actually exchanging views and information...
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