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2015-09-21 , 18:11
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#61
Originally Posted by ste-phan View Post
Same experience here to my surprise.

However you should not "drop it wrong"

https://together.jolla.com/question/...op-your-phone/



From Firefox I would be missing plug ins: Self-Destructing cookies, uBlock (adblocker)

(night) reading mode

It's lightning fast and when I see something interesting I can save it as PDF for later reference (weblinks do die)

Just having to use the Android back button is somewhat inconvenient due to its location.
Native browser WebPirate has ad blocking and night reading mode built in.
 

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2015-09-21 , 19:06
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#62
Originally Posted by vistaus View Post
Native browser WebPirate has ad blocking and night reading mode built in.
Thanks, that is true and I (try to) use it as well but its not fluid and fast like Firefox.. (and PDF and) If you have Android support installed and are not using other heavy Android programs concurrently, there is really no reason to not use Firefox for the web.

If a Jolla successor opts for not to include Alien Dalvik license I will miss Firefox. Wish one day it would land in native form on Sailfish.
 

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2015-09-21 , 19:52
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#63
Originally Posted by ste-phan View Post
Thanks, that is true and I (try to) use it as well but its not fluid and fast like Firefox.. (and PDF and) If you have Android support installed and are not using other heavy Android programs concurrently, there is really no reason to not use Firefox for the web.

If a Jolla successor opts for not to include Alien Dalvik license I will miss Firefox. Wish one day it would land in native form on Sailfish.
Revert to 1.0.5 or around that, install adblock plus, native browser is quick and fluid (at some point addon installation got borked, oh well), hopefully the new chrome based one will allow u/adblock, even apple is doing it now, so maybe the heads up there will consider it
 

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2015-09-22 , 08:51
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#64
Is it worth the waiting for a new Sailfish device or should I recommend to buy the Jolla MK1?
 
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2015-09-22 , 09:10
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#65
Originally Posted by SKyd3R View Post
Is it worth the waiting for a new Sailfish device or should I recommend to buy the Jolla MK1?
That is the main questions:

- spend 250€ on outdated hardware
- wait for a new device (which may 'never' come)

I found my solution for the time being as I'm not willing to spend more than 150 or maybe 180.
 
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2015-09-22 , 09:51
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#66
or maybe buy some multibootable phone for wich sailfish was ported...but if u dont need android apps,sure.
 
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2015-09-22 , 10:15
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Originally Posted by SKyd3R View Post
Is it worth the waiting for a new Sailfish device or should I recommend to buy the Jolla MK1?
I'd just buy a used Jolla for ~100EUR and sell it if something newer comes out. I absolutely disagree with all those "outdated hardware" claims - hardware is currently just a commodity, so the software is what makes the difference.

Even if there was no SailfishOS on Jolla, the design, durability and TOH functionality is nice enough to think about it. With SailfishOS (optimized for the phone and getting periodical releases) on it, it is an incredible device with little competition on the market.

And outdated hardware? Give me a break. I don't see what I'd need a 4K screen or 16-core CPU for. I'll take an optimized system over a 40Mpx camera any day.
 

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2015-09-22 , 10:42
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#68
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With SailfishOS (optimized for the phone and getting periodical releases) on it, it is an incredible device with little competition on the market.
Haven't been following all that, but is 2.0 going to be a forced upgrade on the phone?
In other words, if you want the latest security and application you will be needing 2.0 or not.

Leaving people choosing to stay with 1.0 in the N900 category of using dead and insecure OS?

In your opinion, which Sailfish update or version was the best optimized Sailfish for this MK1 Jolla phone so far?

And can you install all applications on it? Something like call recorder might not install on any version.
 

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#69
Originally Posted by nodevel View Post
I'd just buy a used Jolla for ~100EUR and sell it if something newer comes out.
Seconded.

And outdated hardware? Give me a break. I don't see what I'd need a 4K screen or 16-core CPU for.
Amen!

(OTOH, playing a devil's advocate, I can see where they are coming from. All other things being equal, a choice between a poorer HW spec for €250 or a better one for €150 is a no-brainer. The question of course is, are all other things being equal?)

I'll take an optimized system over a 40Mpx camera any day.
This is the sticky point. SFOS should be more optimised. After all, it runs native applications, not virtualised like some other OSes. Yet increasing OOM problems with every OS update suggest that optimising is not on top of their priority list
 

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2015-09-22 , 11:14
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Yet increasing OOM problems with every OS update suggest that optimising is not on top of their priority list
This.

Still remember our family's iPad 1 32GB 3G whatever, it was a gift

Setup full of useful software, and being used for study and work for about 2 years..

until somebody got bored and decided to press update and the device became junk. Slower OS, some software no longer compatible etc..

I'm thinking to find check the best Sailfish (memory it was around end of 2014 where these OOM issues started to really show.) Revert to it and see which software can still be installed, then remove Jolla account and just use the damn thing until it disintegrates.
 

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