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2012-01-23
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#702
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Originally Posted by mr_jrt
You are way off topic here. Please take your discussion to another thread.
I agree it's what we have to aim for, but I feel being pragmatic is the only way we'll get there. Having a system in the (current) state the pure-Debian solution is in makes it a curiosity for developer interest only...
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2012-01-23
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#703
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Originally Posted by SD69
You are right. Where can I turn to, to ask for a separation of the off-topic posts?
You are way off topic here. Please take your discussion to another thread.
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2012-01-23
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#704
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Originally Posted by sulu
Just start another thread and hopefully a mod will move the off-topic posts. Please continue I am interested in a post-N900 maemo strategy. Thanks.
You are right. Where can I turn to, to ask for a separation of the off-topic posts?
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2012-01-23
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#705
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Originally Posted by SD69
Thanks for the suggestion! I created a new thread in "General" [1] since I wasn't sure in which direction the thread will go, which is partially due to this:
Just start another thread and hopefully a mod will move the off-topic posts.
Originally Posted by SD69
It seems like we want different things. You want a post-N900 maemo strategy. I'm more interested in a post-maemo N900 strategy.
Please continue I am interested in a post-N900 maemo strategy. Thanks.
[1] http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81810
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2012-01-28
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#706
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2012-01-30
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#707
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Originally Posted by pali
I've sent an email to X-Fade following up on the task. We'll see what happens.
@SD69:
See, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=694
What to do now?
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2012-01-30
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#708
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Originally Posted by SD69
Ok thanks. Also do you know something if downloads.maemo.nokia.com OVI repository will be fixed?
I've sent an email to X-Fade following up on the task. We'll see what happens.
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2012-01-30
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#709
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It has been more than a year probably since we having this problem.Ovi repository is such a pain in the arse and if we really own this websie till 2012 ,why we are having this problem at the first place ? And if we are facing with this problem where does this council stand?SD69 it would be great if you just get done with this asap .
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2012-01-30
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#710
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Originally Posted by imo
Ovi is outside the scope of maemo community. We don't really own or control maemo.org either. I know you probably heard that, but it was not me that said it, it was maybe here -
It has been more than a year probably since we having this problem.Ovi repository is such a pain in the arse and if we really own this websie till 2012 ,why we are having this problem at the first place ? And if we are facing with this problem where does this council stand?SD69 it would be great if you just get done with this asap.
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=10
If you read the minutes of the last meeting, you will see I objected to Nokia and their response was "Define promised". And so you see what we're up against, my email to Nokia on the subject is below, to which they have not responded (as they have not responded to most of council's emails and requests to schedule meetings).
This is not new way of thinking to me, but I'm satisfied the maemo community has been quite patient and hope others will now see that the community should plan its future without dependence on any more goodwill from Nokia.
Hi Matti,
To address some of your questions yesterday, I've gone back and found record of the promise (from QGil I believe) where Nokia was giving council "the final word on all matters relating to maemo.org."
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=10
This was before you were appointed so it seems you were not aware of it, but it is what I had in mind and of course explains why I expected the proposal to bring Harmattan into maemo.org would be discussed with Council. I realize that this may be contrary to what you were told about the relationship between Nokia and the maemo.org Council - I would appreciate it if you could consider it and reply to Council on this point so we all have a shared understanding of how maemo.org matters will be decided moving forward.
I am interested in the Harmattan proposal and will carefully consider how we can proceed in a way to mutually benefit everyone involved. I request that you (or Niels) share details of what you want to do, including an approximate timeline, so that Council can consider it, initiate community discussion, and we can move on.
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Having an old kernel is a big problem, yes, but unavoidable if we're going to have to maintain binary compatibility. In my eyes, strictly speaking I'm not too bothered about being part of the "mainline" Debian repos, and indeed I might wonder if that was too big a constraint. What I'd be more than happy with is a relationship akin to Ubuntu's, where we share source packages, have some packages of our own, push and pull source from Debian, and have bugs linked to those in their BTS. A tight integration of separate projects, if you will, sharing Debian's policies of pushing changes upstream (to Debian) as much as possible.
Mobile devices if nothing else will always have different sensible defaults than desktop packages!