Originally Posted by IsaacDFP

I don't understand why soooo many of you keep comparing the N9 to the iPhone 4...

Originally Posted by IsaacDFP

you guys do realize the iPhone 5 is coming out soon right? And it will probably beat the N9 in all specs... then what you gonna say?

Originally Posted by billybobjones

While I don't disagree with you, let me share a story about a client of mine. He's on the board of a large company, and also has a few side business one of which, a race track, just got robbed. The company that takes care of his security had created an app for ios where you can see real time updates when the motion detectors are triggered as well as the ability to view each camera that is installed.

Because of this one app. He's switched over some 30 employees from blackberry to iphone. His spouse is now also using an iphone and most of his employee's spouses have also followed suit. In addition to this, the large company of whom he's on the board of directors has, at his suggestion, also switched from blackberry to the iphone, this is over 300 phones. iOS gained around 350 phones from just one misc app and as iOS continues to gain market traction, this is going to become more and more common.

People are going to come across an app from iOS or Android that they really want or need and switch just for that. Once you've started using these ecosystems you're tied in. lets say you start buying some ibooks or music via itunes, you start purchasing some games and other apps, pretty soon, you've got a decent investment going in this ecosystem and no amount of all the swiping in the world is going to get you to switch. These scenarios are also exactly why, in my opinion, Nokia decided to ditch Symbian and go with Microsoft.

The reason I even commented about all this in the first place, was because, someone sounded pretty shocked that people were disappointed with the N9. Here I'm thinking that after 2 years of development they've introduced a phone that is hardly an upgrade from the N900. It's missing features that the N8 and E7 have and hardware wise, is behind phones coming out now and when it starts retailing in a couple months will be even more behind.

All this to say, if you really want to disrupt the market and swing people away from android and iOS you're going to need to do a whole lot more than the N9 and Swipe. Harmatten is pretty and it's cool, there are great features, it is an upgrade from the N900, but It's definitely not a 600 euro upgrade

Originally Posted by smegheadz

that story had nothing to do with the hardware of the iphone but the 3rd party app he had created. could have created it for android or windows. if idiots like that want to fork out for gimics, so what? can make apps like that for and already is available for most operating systems.
stop thinking of this as nokia's main device. if it's not worth €600 and it's not an upgrade from the n900 then don't buy it. nokia is going WP7 all the way for the next few years. your just pi*sing in the wind. Meego/hermatten is testing the waters, they'll do it again with another device, put some features in it and see how we like them. get used to it with all manufacturers, one way or another you'll buy a new device and they'll stop supporting it because their new shiny is out. seems like only a few months ago(exaggeration) the first galaxy was out, now the 3rd one is coming out.

Originally Posted by Hariainm

Please, can somebody please bring to me some light about this features in the new N9, thread has grown a lot since yesterday :-p

- Full landscape view? (landscape menu, browser, conversations, apps in general... landscape keyboard?)
- X terminal?
- App download method based on repositories, like N900?
- Use of the front camera?
- Integration of skype, google talk like N900?
- FM transmitter?

Originally Posted by IsaacDFP

I don't understand why soooo many of you keep comparing the N9 to the iPhone 4... you guys do realize the iPhone 5 is coming out soon right? And it will probably beat the N9 in all specs... then what you gonna say?