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Originally Posted by ericsson View Post
Well see, why exactly should we convince you that we like the N9? And why are you here if you hate everything that Nokia and MeeGo evolves into? The point is, it is not that I disagree with your points of view, it is more that your points of view are irrelevant.
You've misinterpreted--I'm not asking you to convince me that you like it, I want to know why I or anybody else would. That's what the discussion is about, right? I, for one, am so far unimpressed and I can't see how this will compete with iPhone, Android or even Nokia's own Symbian or even the Windows Phones that Nokia so dearly loves lately. Clearly, it took less to impress you. Tell me why and hopefully I can understand why I or anyone else should be impressed and why you think others should like it. (Otherwise, what's the point of forums? It would be boring/annoying to descend into yet another religious cult-like iOS-like forum?)
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Originally Posted by NvyUs View Post
This site as been more negative about N9 than on media sites, blogs & ppl on twitter, where its been applauded and got lots of positivity.
so i dont accept dan that only people on here like the N9.
well Over 1 million hits on youtube combining videos shows the amount of interest from the wider public too.
You're equating watching a video with liking the device? How many of those people do you expect will buy it?
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Originally Posted by xerxes2 View Post
@danramos

This is a pretty positive article from someone that tested the N9 for a few hours.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/e...ot-be-serious/
Yes, it shows that the N9 is cool. But the article fails on one important point. Nokia is not all about WP, Nokia is not all about MeeGo, it is not all about Symbian or all about S40 or S30. Nokia has always had the ability to do several things at once. This black and white, right or wrong talk is fanboy bloggers talk. The real world does not work like that. We will see more MeeGo devices from Nokia. Nokia will probably sell around 5-10 ish millions MeeGo devices per year. This is more than enough to make MeeGo sustainable. WP will sell much more and the ecosystem will be gigantic in comparison, but a large portion of that ecosystem will also be available for Nokia-MeeGo. An ecosystem is much more than just apps.

Qt will be available for S40 as a new and lighter smartphone family. That ecosystem will be humongous, and Nokia-MeeGo will be able to take every advantage from that. And Symbian? who knows what the accenture people (former Nokia, former Symbian) is able to cook up when they are free to develop Symbian as they see fit without Nokia poking at every detail.

Nokia is so much more than WP/no WP that the article is more like a comedy, a farce. But. nice to know he liked the N9 though.
 
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
the swipe UI and some drivers and nokia apps is closed same as in the N900 case.

They already has started plans for CE version

http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?...3&postcount=33
And why CE version ( I suppose CE means Community Edition)? What is the use of it? I sincerely want to know.
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
You've misinterpreted--I'm not asking you to convince me that you like it, I want to know why I or anybody else would. That's what the discussion is about, right? I, for one, am so far unimpressed and I can't see how this will compete with iPhone, Android or even Nokia's own Symbian or even the Windows Phones that Nokia so dearly loves lately. Clearly, it took less to impress you. Tell me why and hopefully I can understand why I or anyone else should be impressed and why you think others should like it. (Otherwise, what's the point of forums? It would be boring/annoying to descend into yet another religious cult-like iOS-like forum?)
You're unfortunately dealing with an entire forum - and yes, I'm purposely using a rather broad paintbrush stroke here - that deals in "It's not iOS, it's not Android, it's not WebOS... it's made by Nokia so I must have it!" types that think that Nokia cares about whatever we say, think, do and above all want.

They don't.

So why would you want this? My reasons are simple.... it's not iOS, it's not Android, it's not WebOS... it's Maemo.

To me, it doesn't bring a goshdarn thing to the table. There's no VLC. There's no mention of Adobe Flash - sorry Flash haters, I dev the ****, so I need to see that ****. There's not even mention of what kind of music I can have on it - a cloud player (Amazon, Google, somebody) would be nice to have. And knowing that I'll continue to get updates will also be great to know.

But it's Maemo. Updates? Pfft. Never in the past has a platform been routinely ignored by a company not named Microsoft (I'm thinking of MS BOB, btw when I say that). Cloud, modern features? Pfft. I got terminal... I can do everything... but convince Nokia and other vendors I'm worthy of their support.

I do know it can be used alongside Qt. Great. I'll heap that along with my .NET, AS3, and lately Android App Inventor stuff.

Forget convincing you why you should like it. Nokia has announced something new... and to me, has convinced some. I'm convinced that I want it... mainly because I want a new toy. I mean gadget. I mean... phone.

But as to why others want it, couldn't tell you. But you know... it might save me from an ecosystem that I don't agree with. Both track the hell out of me - iOS and Android. Both have all of my information that I'd love to access more freely.

Hell... I might even evangelize Maemo Harmattan because they have zero buttons on the front whereas Apple has one, Android has 4, WP7 has 3... they beat Apple to the no-button game.

But to convince you... lemme say this. If it had the apps, ready to be built for it, natively - read: no EasyDebian - and allowed you to drag, drop your stuff onto it (music, video, contacts, content) and those things were actual-factual... could that convince you?

Could that convince me?

Until I hear the answers to those things... I doubt you'll hear anything that will convince you otherwise.

I know... I know... tl;dr. Here's the summary: Nokia announce new device. Now Nokia needs to deliver popular content or at least deliver vendors that will enable that. Period.
 

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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
You've misinterpreted--I'm not asking you to convince me that you like it, I want to know why I or anybody else would. That's what the discussion is about, right? I, for one, am so far unimpressed and I can't see how this will compete with iPhone, Android or even Nokia's own Symbian or even the Windows Phones that Nokia so dearly loves lately. Clearly, it took less to impress you. Tell me why and hopefully I can understand why I or anyone else should be impressed and why you think others should like it. (Otherwise, what's the point of forums? It would be boring/annoying to descend into yet another religious cult-like iOS-like forum?)
I have already answered. I said it was a masterpiece IMO. If you fail to see that, then you obviously have a totally different opinion of what a mobile phone masterpiece should be. So there really is no point in exchanging views because your views are so different that they are irrelevant. That's it really.
 
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it looks like does have adobe flash video.

seen screenshots on allaboutmeego
 
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You sure its not HTML5?
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Hell... I might even evangelize Maemo Harmattan because they have zero buttons on the front whereas Apple has one, Android has 4, WP7 has 3... they beat Apple to the no-button game.

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They already beat Apple. N900 has zero buttons on the front. Looks nice
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