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eikido	2011-09-28 , 21:06
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I tried the N9 today.
I couldn't believe it, the browser loaded pages faster than my SGSII.

Sure the test wasn't 100% correct, but it was approximate. But it was on the same network and it was HSDPA speed on both.

The GUI was awesome.
Coolest phone ever.

This phone can definitely compete against the iPhone for the "stupid" mass

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Cue	2011-09-28 , 21:08
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Originally Posted by gerbick

Some weird thoughts went through my head...

I know that Elop and the rest of Nokia knew nothing about the MeeGo folding into Tizen announcement; however they will still try to benefit from by stating that it would not have been beneficial to them.

It's pretty clear they caused it, if Nokia or anybody else tries to blame a lack of direction on Intel they are very much mistaken. Put yourself in Intels shoes. You partner with Nokia who then out of the blue kills its support for it. This leads the general public to believe Meego=Nokia and Nokia dropping support means Meego is a dead platform. what should Intel do?

1) Rebranding

You now have no handset partner. What do you do?

2) Approach the biggest you can, Samsung

Samsung negotiate to include aspects of thier linux mobile OS LiMo. Qt becomes something that does not benefit Samsung or Intel directly so it's not compulsory but is not closed to it.

3) Tizen is born

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jalyst	2011-09-28 , 21:19
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Originally Posted by Cue

<SNIP>Samsung negotiate to include aspects of thier linux mobile OS LiMo.
Qt becomes something that does not benefit Samsung or Intel directly so it's not compulsory but is not closed to it.

3) Tizen is born

Well thought out, and pretty-much agreed.
I think Intel still has some liability in it all, but that's a whole other debate.
Re this:

so it's not compulsory but is not closed to it.

Do we have any info. to suggest that Qt will/can still play a big role?
I haven't had a chance to read any of the big threads etc yet.
I really do hope so, at least for the first year or so...

There were also rumours recently that Samsung's planning to open Bada.
Is it feasible perhaps that they may also merge Bada's upper/middle-ware into Tizen?

Bada's kernel I believe is closed/proprietary, & not owned by Samsung.
But apparently Bada was designed from the outset to be easily decoupled from the kernel.
It just seems logical at this pont that they consolidate the no. of OS's they're working on.

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gerbick	2011-09-28 , 21:27
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing

whats next is that "maemo6 harmattan" is stil alive and first PR upgrade around a month after release. atleast what nnokia said today.

That will invariably cover any updates, stability and issue fixes for Qt components/Qt Quick/QML. That's all that I read in that statement.

also meego core has been dead for months it seems. meegoux inactive but qt-components for harmattan active developed... so nothing new. activite development has been from the Meego 1.3 CE team for n9xx and funny is some of those is actually Nokia employers.

Dead? Not when there was a looming update.

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	marxian	2011-09-28 , 21:28
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Originally Posted by eikido

This phone can definitely compete against the iPhone for the "stupid" mass

That's if they can find one. I suggest this song as the backing for the next N9 ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQnHAb_6sOs

Woah Mexico
It sounds so simple I just gotta go
Nobody sells the N9 close to home
I guess I gotta go now

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jalyst	2011-09-28 , 21:47
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing

whats next is that "maemo6 harmattan" is stil alive and first PR upgrade around a month after release. atleast what nnokia said today.

Where have they officially said 1st major release/update (PRx.x) is coming 1mth after N9 availability?

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	somedude	2011-09-28 , 21:49
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so gerbick any word on the 64gb Mexican N9?

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mikecomputing	2011-09-28 , 21:53
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Originally Posted by Cue

It's pretty clear they caused it, if Nokia or anybody else tries to blame a lack of direction on Intel they are very much mistaken. Put yourself in Intels shoes. You partner with Nokia who then out of the blue kills its support for it. This leads the general public to believe Meego=Nokia and Nokia dropping support means Meego is a dead platform. what should Intel do?

1) Rebranding

You now have no handset partner. What do you do?

2) Approach the biggest you can, Samsung

Samsung negotiate to include aspects of thier linux mobile OS LiMo. Qt becomes something that does not benefit Samsung or Intel directly so it's not compulsory but is not closed to it.

3) Tizen is born

so where was Intels handset HW again!? remember there is two sides of this mess. Bussiness as usual. Intel is NOT a good guy in this mess... Both company failed from day one...