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#781
Originally Posted by Benson View Post
I'm not even sure what that means, but there's not much optimization left in software. It's chiefly hardware, but since the N900 will be OMAP3xxx based, it'll be about double the performance with the same power consumption.

3xxx, 34xx,

Nice to hear... What do we get from this that were IMPOSSIBLE with current devices?
 
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Originally Posted by Seb Per View Post
What do we get from this that were IMPOSSIBLE with current devices?
Well,
Originally Posted by Benson View Post
...it'll be about double the performance with the same power consumption
...for a start.
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
Well,

...for a start.

:-)

yes, and if my aunt had b--ls, I would call her my uncle

more seriously?

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Originally Posted by Seb Per View Post
more seriously?
Uh, that is serious. OMAP3 offers about 2-3x the performance at the same battery consumption levels as OMAP2.

If you really want to read about all the neat features of OMAP3, I've covered it at least a half-dozen times in this thread (likely much more than that).

Here's a good start.
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Uh, that is serious. OMAP3 offers about 2-3x the performance at the same battery consumption levels as OMAP2.

If you really want to read about all the neat features of OMAP3, I've covered it at least a half-dozen times in this thread (likely much more than that).

Here's a good start.
Thank you very much GA, I appreciate!!, I ve been away for approx 1 year and it s hard to read through such a long thread. In my opinion, this trade off (power/consumption) is the bottleneck of all such devices ( if you keep volume size and screen size the same).

2-3 x the performance IS serious improvement.

I ll go read right now. thx again.
 
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More flash, more CPU power (die shrink), 3d acceleration and higher resolution, none of this mini-SD crap (obsolete the day it hit shelves, SIM support (optional), screen flush with faceplate, normal mini-USB, WiMax/Wireless-N, better GPS, Better camera, thinner profile, better placement of power and lock slider keys, stripped down compiz-fusion if I can dream.
 
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Originally Posted by Mutiny32 View Post
More flash, more CPU power (die shrink), 3d acceleration and higher resolution, none of this mini-SD crap (obsolete the day it hit shelves, SIM support (optional), screen flush with faceplate, normal mini-USB, WiMax/Wireless-N, better GPS, Better camera, thinner profile, better placement of power and lock slider keys, stripped down compiz-fusion if I can dream.
I agree with most of the above. OpenGL or OpenGL ES is a must for the new generation of tablets.
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Okay, looking at these OMAP processors (for the 1st time), here is what I see what will happen by moving from the OMAP2420 to the OMAP3430:

1) Improved video performance from 640x480@30FPS to 720x480@30FPS
Also improved CODEC performance such as the ability to decode a full DVD
video stream.

2) Improved camera capability: It can take bigger imagers and process it much
faster. In fact "DVD-quality camcorder" capability is advertised. Of course a
DVD-quality imager and lens would need to be added to make this happen
which I'm sure some compromises would have to me made here.

3) A boost in overall processor speed. Although I'm not sure how that will play
out. It seems like 2D/3D video effects will be better, perhaps some other DSP
functions as well. I'm not sure what the core "ARM" processor will be like other
than its advertised "up to 3x improvement over an ARM11" claim.

4) A decrease in power consumption, but by an unknown amount. Going from a
90nm to a 64nm die size is suppose to decrease power consumption while
increasing speed capability, but as Intel found out a few years back, this
doesn't always yield the results you hoped for. Then there is no guarantee
that Nokia then just put in a smaller battery.

I also noticed is that it should be easy (as in cheap) to add an IR to this thing, so why not do it? I know: "what will you use it for?", but some people would like to use the NIT as a fancy IR remote for their consumer electronics, or maybe use an IR remote to control the NIT.

I guess these things take "Mobil DDR" memory. I'm assuming this is nothing too expensive? I'm not sure, but it looked like the N810's OMAP2420 had 64Megs internal to the processor meaning they added 64Megs external. Hopefully there isn't a maximum address space limitation preventing larger external chips?

One thing that worries me is that it looks like it may only be able to take 1 MMC/SD device in addition to the internal NAND/NOR Flash. Can someone verify this? I would really like to see the root file system on a larger user replaceable memory device, leaving an external [full sized SDHC please] slot for hot-pluggable user data.

Other than that, the prospects of this new processor (assuming it IS chosen) leaves me salivating!
 

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Oh, and the ability to use and interact with the file systems while plugged in via USB.
 
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Originally Posted by wartstew View Post
3) A boost in overall processor speed. Although I'm not sure how that will play out. It seems like 2D/3D video effects will be better, perhaps some other DSP functions as well. I'm not sure what the core "ARM" processor will be like other than its advertised "up to 3x improvement over an ARM11" claim.
What exactly does "up to 3x improvement over an ARM11" not tell you? :\

Originally Posted by wartstew View Post
4) A decrease in power consumption, but by an unknown amount. Going from a 90nm to a 64nm die size is suppose to decrease power consumption while increasing speed capability, but as Intel found out a few years back, this doesn't always yield the results you hoped for. Then there is no guarantee that Nokia then just put in a smaller battery.
No, the power consumption will likely be almost exactly the same. We're getting a lot of efficiency improvements, but it also has more horsepower. The net effect for power consumption should be about zero.

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Oh, and the ability to use and interact with the file systems while plugged in via USB.
This one has been addressed several time before. How, exactly, do you expect to mount one filesystem in two places (note, there's a requirement that the filesystem you use be able to work well with mtd devices).
 
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