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#71
Originally Posted by nickmar View Post
CPU is the same - scroll down to the bottom of the following page for a comparison table between the 770, 800 and 810:

http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/plat...emo/index.html
Definitely the same. From a comment from developer David Weinehall on Ari's blog, linked to earlier:

Nope, there's no cpu difference between the N800 and N810. The software runs fast enough on the N800, trust me.
In other words, the N800 is about to see a significant speed boost. For free. Later on in another comment David says that Flash performance is improved.

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#72
Originally Posted by penguinbait View Post
Is there a n900 slated for sometime soon, the 810 makes me want to run out and buy a umpc. a 21% inclrease in processing power, and more stuff I dont need like a camera and slide out keyboard.

Dont get me wrong, I like the idea of the slide out keyboard, but I am certainly not seeing the want to spend 500$ for 21% increase in processing power. I already own the bt keyboard and GPS, so not a big win in my book.

At least the 770 to 800 was a 32% increase in processing performance and adoubling of memory, Hopefully the n900 won't be 10-12% increase.

WHAT IS ALL THE HYPE ABOUT?

well even nokia is not positioning this as more than a compliment or marginal upgrade over the n800 (the numbering did not increase by 100 like the previous jump). I think this is exactly how they "positioned" it when stepping around the FCC filings earlier. A new consumer who feels they want an internet tablet to surf a site or two from the couch without booting up the computer will gladly buy this with the keyboard and the slightly faster specs than worry about buying an 800, upgrading the OS, overclocking the processor, getting a bluetooth keyboard, pairing the two .. and then going at it.
 
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I'm really hoping OS2008 will support PPTP VPN connections to campus's WiFi without having to make kernel modifications. Any word on that?
 
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#74
Will it be possible to buy/create your own layouts for hardware and on-screen keyboards (to support other locales than provided)?
 
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Does ITOS2008 at least still support the HWR -- however crappy it is?

Or did Nokia dump that completely?
 
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Originally Posted by rs-px View Post
Definitely the same. From a comment from developer David Weinehall on Ari's blog, linked to earlier:



In other words, the N800 is about to see a significant speed boost. For free. Later on in another comment David says that Flash performance is improved.

N800 has the same proc as the 810, but it runs at 330mhz, and the 810 I believe is running at 400. So yes its the same proc in the sense that all pentium 3's are the same, but you cant say you get the same performance from a 600mhz p3 as a 1ghz p3.

And while the OS might run plenty fast, unless they tap into the built in 2d/3d chip the 800 might drop frames during video.
 
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Actually this seems to be more like the artificial cap that sony introduced on their playstation portable gaming system. By "under-clocking" the cpu nokia was able to establish the current battery time/cpu cycles we find in OS 2007. Now that they are introducing OS 2008 which is most likely better optimized they can remove this cap on the Nokia n800 and run it at it's factory default speed. This is all speculation of course until we get a definite answer but it does seem the processors are the EXACT same.

Edit: Yep seems that's the case the cpu in the N800 and N810 are exactly the same and the 400mhz will be unlocked in os 2008 for the N800 model. *confirmed by one of the Manager's on Jaiku

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#78
Originally Posted by zerojay View Post
Here's what happened. I hope that I don't go over your head... and if I seem to be talking down to you, it's not what I intended. I'm just trying to make sure everyone understands.
Thanks Z,

I appreciate the plain language explanation. Knowing this info makes it easier (but not much=) to wait till (is it mid?) November for my new OS.

The more I've thought about this today, the more I like it. I'm likely not going to get the N810 (I really don't need the keyboard) but the new OS and lots more apps will make my 'old' N800 'new' again and, it would appear, at no cost to me! That's cool!
 
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens View Post
Does ITOS2008 at least still support the HWR -- however crappy it is?

Or did Nokia dump that completely?
I don't remember where it was but I remember reading that it's still there and "works better". We'll see.
 
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WTF? Sunofabeotch, I just finally got a compiling environment up and running and now I've got to upgrade/reinstall it all over again?
Craptastically craptacular, that's what this news is. Unless the new OS is fixing the Sofia-thru-TUN bug and unlocking the full-on power of the camera to developers (because you all know we're going to have to roll our own video-over-IP solution to communicate with desktops), and making the Hildon user interface a little easier on the eyes and a hell of a lot more customizable then what's the point again?
Oh yeah...easier porting over of apps. Unfortunately though, the apps folks will most want (VoIP & Video) won't be able to be easily ported over unless Nokia "fixes" the bugs I've pointed out earlier.

I'm really digging the QWERTY keypad (shades of Zaurus? Bring on Opie now!) but from what others are saying I'll have to take one for a real test drive to be sure. Hopefully us N800 owners will get a bump up in speed from the new OS revision as well.
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