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#71
Originally Posted by rcadden View Post
dude, did you not read? Go into the application manager and change the maemo extras repository URL from "repository" to "repostory".
of course i did, otherwise why should I complain on this thread?
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ok, well i just did a clean reflash, and i removed the 'i' in repository--- it didn't do anything though. odd because it was working before the reflash.

edit:
doh! the repository was disabled by default. i put the 'i' back in and enabled it. works just fine!

Last edited by hordeman; 2007-12-29 at 04:18.
 
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#73
Seems as good a thread as any to point out that the N810 is so far from ready as a consumer product as to be laughable/sad. The out of box experience for a new user with no Linux experience is so poor as to virtually insure that the user base will solely be composed of Linux/hacker very-early-adopters.

Nokia does not include, at least in the box my unit came in:

The tool required to update the OS via a Windows computer, nor any reference to it.

The full user manual which is available online, nor any reference to it. And I use the term 'full user manual' in the most general sense as that manual is so lacking in content as to be better considered a quickstart.

Useable customer support, pointers to support forums such as this, the list is endless. Yes, I've managed to get the thing working, thanks to folks like all of you, and my over twenty years of computer use. Would my wife, daughter, neighbor, office mate, and so on have been able/willing to deal with what I've dealt with? Doubtful.

I've written end user documentation, I've run large scale networks, I've managed customer support organizations, so I feel I've some perspective on this issue.

I see much promise in the hardware and intent to continue experimenting. If I were retired, I'd consider writing the user manual that Nokia failed to produce, written for non-Linux users.

I'm no Apple fanboy, but Nokia could take a lesson on out of the box experience from them. Heck, they could take a lesson from Dell or HP for that matter.

As to vacation time and network support, I agree with the previous statements. Designing a resilient online service is hard work, requires investing CapEx and time, but is no longer rocket science. The company I work for handled well over 100 million connections to its online service on Dec 25th with no issues. We run servers in three colos, with redundant everything in each colo, and sufficient capacity to lose a full colo and still handle the traffic. Not cheap, but we're a much smaller company than Nokia and still manage to do so.

Nuff said.
 

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#74
Originally Posted by mleeds View Post
Nuff said.
Amen, brother. As an 11 year vet of the industry I have to agree, while the hardware is always impressive, the rest of it is just embarrassing.
 
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#75
Hello,

I have offered on the developers list to host a US Mirror site for the installing of any Maemo applications.... If anyone wants to, please let me know. The DNS trick worked for the developer versions.

Best regards,
Edward
 
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#76
I used putty log into my n770 then MC which is a easy and quick tool...Midnight Commander...
 
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Originally Posted by mleeds View Post
Seems as good a thread as any to point out that the N810 is so far from ready as a consumer product as to be laughable/sad. The out of box experience for a new user with no Linux experience is so poor as to virtually insure that the user base will solely be composed of Linux/hacker very-early-adopters.
With more mobile Linux based devices destined to flood the market in the next 6-9 months it will be interesting to see what changes - the products or user perceptions. Nokia have fumbled several times but they're getting there, and Linux is a very different animal from Windows Mobile and other mobile platforms. I think it's a better platform, while others may think it worse based on what they are expecting - if they stick with the product and don't try to change it (which is the beauty of Linux and the Nokia platform) they'll do just fine, assuming Nokia can get the servers working etc. If they're expecting a Windows Mobile like experience then forget it (at least for now).

Originally Posted by mleeds View Post
Nokia does not include, at least in the box my unit came in:

The tool required to update the OS via a Windows computer, nor any reference to it.

The full user manual which is available online, nor any reference to it. And I use the term 'full user manual' in the most general sense as that manual is so lacking in content as to be better considered a quickstart.
To be fair, including a CD in the box is a waste of time IMHO. I can't remember the last time I actually used the software which came on an in-box CD as I always download the latest version from the vendors website. The CD in the box is almost always out of date.

The "Getting Started" guide which you should have received in the box (a folded pamphlet) refers on the last page to the manual that is installed on the device (in PDF format, numerous languages) and provides a link (www.nokia.com/n800 for the N800) to the Nokia tablet support site.

Originally Posted by mleeds View Post
Useable customer support, pointers to support forums such as this, the list is endless. Yes, I've managed to get the thing working, thanks to folks like all of you, and my over twenty years of computer use. Would my wife, daughter, neighbor, office mate, and so on have been able/willing to deal with what I've dealt with? Doubtful.
Now this I can agree with - I've been pretty unimpressed with Nokia support of the tablets and believe this forum is saving Nokias arse big time. There are more knowledgeable people here and you'll get a quicker response here than on any other official Nokia forum IMHO. And of course you can search the forum before posting in case your question is already answered, which is quite likely!
 

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#78
While I agree with "Milhouse", above, I would also add that I was purchasing Nokia N800's in August in Canada, and found neither unit had the current version of the 2007 OS installed. If I recall, the most recent and significant update had been back in June.
At over $430 for me at that time for each and direct purchased from Nokia themselves, it showcases well some of the points people are making here.
 
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#79
I keep reading in here that people are able to install apps...

I have removed the "i" in respository, put it back in and still get download failed on everything.

I have gone through alot of battery charges trying to get my 810 back to pre-2008 update usable.

Any hints?
 
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Originally Posted by Honeybadger View Post
I have removed the "i" in respository, put it back in and still get download failed on everything.
Er, why did you put it back in?
 
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