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Hi mooler no problem, hope we are able to delivery asap, we have bossa conference coming ( www.bossaconference.org ) so maybe we will be delayed a little but, we are here right now doing some tweaks on it maybe MAYBE tomorrow it's good to launch, if not, only next friday more or less.

Marcelo

Great news! I finally managed to get canola2 installed!
I ran apt-get update and xterm listed the dependencies that were broken or needed to be dealt with. Then I ran apt-get -f to remove the litte buggers, which it did. And finally I ran apt-get install canola2 which worked! HOORAY!
I had forgotten I had disabled the non-nokia repositories which in turn allowed me to complete the steps above.
Now I do not need to reflash!

(please, don't take this in a rude way, actually I'm really calm, and trying to explain our side also ok? )

Well, you need to understand my position we are trying to follow an idea, and this must have no arrows / select area. Of course we are not good still, and the screen doesn't help, but there's several users that have no problem with that, others that have a small problems (small error rates) and others like you that have more problems.

But I will not change Canola's main design principles based on the smaller number of users. Unfortunately not. We tried (doing the taskbar) but just do not work for us.

There's other ways, and I think pycage has done the way people expect and also Kagu : you need to touch a play area to do stuff, so scrolling is always safe. So I can only point you towards them, because we will not implement those ideas any time. Actually I think it will be easier to maemo to have a capacitive / precise screen faster than this ))

Well, you're not the first one to come with "numbers" and believe me: we have tested so much so much combinations, and also there's threshold for movements, click, everything. The thing is : I really think even when you are moving your finger : you are not generating events, or your screen has some problem of some sort (interrupted events - but I don't believe that)

Your last quote actually tells me something :

This means 2 things : one ) you have a problematic screen, failures in the pressure part because , the thumb only comes when you press with a finger (several touch points) and with some pressure. If you don't get it, by pressing with your thumb I suggest you to try other device and see if the same happens. two ) you have a personal way of touching that makes the simple click happens to fast, and with concentrated pressure, thus "being" registered just like a stylus.

But in the end, as you said that with the stylus also failed, I really think that can also be the problem on the screen : / (not removing the blame from us, I know we are far from being good on this, but you just seems to have more problems than the average)

Can you find another device with a friend to test this? and pass your device to your friend to see if the same thing happens with them ?

Marcelo

@wizink : now I'm happy thanks for letting us know that

Not to throw gasoline on the fire..... but ;-)

I've noticed the problems scrolling too. I will attempt to scroll and about 50% of the time it works. The other 50% is split activating the item under my finger when I start the scroll or when I end it.

Short of the small links in the browser I can operate most of os2008 with a finger including small menu items most of the time.

Marcelo --

I have been eagerly awaiting beta6, and installed it this afternoon shortly after it became available.

I had asked (during beta5) for 'bookmarking' a video when exiting, so that play will resume at that point when the same video is selected again. This works now, excellently. There is one gap, I think, in the logic... but it's minor, at best. I was watching video this evening as my battery level fell low enough to cause the tablet to shut down. When canola2 got the signal to exit prior to shutdown, it didn't leave the bookmark on the video it was playing.

I'll admit this is quite minor, and I can live without it, so long as the 'bookmark' works the rest of the time. ...but, if you happen to be in that area of the code, it would be nice to have it always leave the bookmark if it hasn't completed playing the video.

I'm now eagerly looking forward to your youtube plugin...

Pretty much the same here, either with a finger or with the stylus. MicroB browser scrolling works.

For the My Music -> Albums, is there anyway to group the albums with same name and show all songs under that album cause mine shows every on the same album as a different entry so i have like a list of the same albums one after another.

Works just fine. Waiting last.fm plugin :>

Brontide : yeah, please keep the information coming, if it turns to be a major problem, then we have a situation : / but again, it's not near perfect, or very good, but we now that it works if you press slightly harder, and keep it while scrolling. For me it's like 15% error (of course I'm part of the project so I don't count) and actually I miss because I think I'm on the iphone screen.

The browser scrolling is different, it doesn't do the kinetic thing, that's the major issue for us, when moving, we want to let you "accellerate" by touching again, and this touchs is as fast as a click, and of course there's more details and variables... As we said, we are trying to improve, but afaik, I really think this kind of low sensitivity screen is not the best thing for what we are trying to do : /

as I said, let's see if we can improve in the next version, but I can't promise anything.. at least I'm safe to say that for those with high rate of error, they have options in the platform.

Also, it's quite strange to hear from you that you have the same problem with the stylus,... because the stylus causes so much more pressure, it's not easy to miss wit that... Guys, do you have a good camera? gold you place the camera near (with macro) and try to record your usage? I want to understand better the usage pattern of each one if possible (like which part of your finger is touching, how do you move the finger across the screen, when you lift it up etc) this would be of great help to identify good strategies to solve the problem.

We just want to avoid hacks in the beginnig.


@cLin : please : go to settings, media library -> multiple album entries. click there and see if you repeated albums appears, if so, you will be able to "combine" them into one album.




BR

Marcelo