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2008-09-10 , 14:48
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Originally Posted by Lord Raiden View Post
Ok, call me stupid, but what happens September 19th?
Hmmmmm... the 19th is a friday so..... pay day?
 
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Originally Posted by Lord Raiden View Post
...what happens September 19th?
It's both the first day of the Maemo Summit and International Talk Like a Pirate Day.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/jadon/2...ol-beagleboard
Could flickr be any slower today?
 
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#74
Originally Posted by Numfar View Post
770 and N800 - not powerful enough -> not the FIE(full internet experience)
can someone please cork that meme allready?!

there is no singular FIE...

different people get different things out of the web.

me, i would be happy if ajax and media plugins where tossed in the bin...
 

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2008-09-10 , 15:52
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So for you tso, simple html from '95 will suffice? None of that gmail crap?


Personally, I wish we would embrace more fully that web2.0 stuff.... The way chrome and FF3.1 have built in javascript engines to make ajax loading much smoother.

Why go back to '95?
 
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2008-09-10 , 16:28
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Originally Posted by jzencovich View Post
So for you tso, simple html from '95 will suffice? None of that gmail crap?


Personally, I wish we would embrace more fully that web2.0 stuff.... The way chrome and FF3.1 have built in javascript engines to make ajax loading much smoother.

Why go back to '95?
Oddly enough, gmail works with straight html; also, excluding AJAX, or scripting entirely, does not mean HTML from '95, it means HTML4/XHTML + CSS2/3, from '08. I personally prefer some AJAX stuff for apps that can use it (de facto web apps), but feel that it gets tossed a lot of places it's not needed.
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2008-09-10 , 16:35
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Originally Posted by jzencovich View Post
So for you tso, simple html from '95 will suffice? None of that gmail crap?
sure, worked fine back then, still works fine now
 
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Originally Posted by tso View Post
can someone please cork that meme allready?!

there is no singular FIE...

different people get different things out of the web.

me, i would be happy if ajax and media plugins where tossed in the bin...

Iīd say the FIE is being able to do everything you can do on a normal x86 browser, save the most processor intensive stuff like Vimeo HD and so on. And it needs to be fast enough for you not to start thinking about how slow it is.
To my best knowledge itīs Chippy from umpcportal.com that coined the term, and I agree with his definition of it.
 
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2008-09-10 , 18:00
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Originally Posted by Numfar View Post
Iīd say the FIE is being able to do everything you can do on a normal x86 browser, save the most processor intensive stuff like Vimeo HD and so on. And it needs to be fast enough for you not to start thinking about how slow it is.
To my best knowledge itīs Chippy from umpcportal.com that coined the term, and I agree with his definition of it.
(Emphasis mine.)

Those are the key points; you can categorically rule out wierd interfaces (such as typical cellphone browsers), but how normal is normal, and how much processor intensive stuff can you peel off?
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Originally Posted by Numfar View Post
To my best knowledge itīs Chippy from umpcportal.com that coined the term, and I agree with his definition of it.
im sadly fully aware of where it comes from, and outside of that meme, he is a nice guy...

what i would like to see instead is the adaptive web. show up with a mobile browser, get a page streamlined for that, desktop same and so on.

but for that we need to toss the current way for the browser to id itself to the server, and rather have something where the browser can specifically tell the server what features it can or cant support.
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