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Originally Posted by rjzak View Post
I too would like to see something nice on T-Mo's 3G. Stupid T-Mo folks just had to have their own friggin' frequency. Couldn't share with AT&T like the European carriers share frequencies. You don't see VodaFone, O2, Era, Orange, T-Mo DE/UK, etc each with their own friggin frequencies.

I almost hate T-Mobile for this.
I'm pretty sure this is more the govt's fault than T-Mobile's. They used the frequencies they were able to license at FCC auction.

The failing, IMO, is the lack of a national wireless infrastructure. I'm not sure what the best way to solve it would be, but one way to solve it would be to have the radio carriers (which may not be the same people who are the voice/msg/data plan carriers) have regional contracts for maintaining the local wireless infrastructure, and they compete with each other for contracts on that. Then the plan carriers sit on top of that. Users pay the plan carriers, plan carriers pay the wireless infrastructure carriers (effectively making all plan carriers into MVNO's), wireless infrastructure carriers operate under Public Utility regulations.

Then you wouldn't have to worry about different frequencies for different carriers: it's all the same soup, at the frequency band level.
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I'm pretty sure this is more the govt's fault than T-Mobile's. They used the frequencies they were able to license at FCC auction.
So then how do they at least have the same frequencies for GSM/GPRS/EDGE? Not an auction. And I still say its T-Mo's fault, never blamed Nokia, except for Nokia not sending over some awesome devices for T-Mo 3G. A T-Mo 3G version of the N97 might make my wallet lighter. I'd have a hard time resisting, since I can't use the 3G functionality of my N95-3.
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I too would like to see something nice on T-Mo's 3G. Stupid T-Mo folks just had to have their own friggin' frequency. Couldn't share with AT&T like the European carriers share frequencies. You don't see VodaFone, O2, Era, Orange, T-Mo DE/UK, etc each with their own friggin frequencies.
Nope ... they share their frequencies, and in france, they share too their prices ... so there is no real competition between them. And for example, price grow up since 2 years ...
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Nope ... they share their frequencies, and in france, they share too their prices ... so there is no real competition between them. And for example, price grow up since 2 years ...
Isn't the EU supposed to be looking into mobile phone carriers and their billing practises? Or is that just for calls/roaming between countries?
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What processor will it use?
At the Q&A session a Nokia staffer said that the N97 uses a "tuned ARM11".
 
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Isn't the EU supposed to be looking into mobile phone carriers and their billing practises? Or is that just for calls/roaming between countries?
"supposed" ... this is the word ...
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Not even 800x480...
Wel, AFAICT it's basically the N90's screen with a touch layer slapped on. In fact, it is pretty much the N90 "done right" or at least done right within the limitations of S60, although I have my reservations about their attempt to "Psionize" it. Psion were notoriously anal about quality control, something Nokia is not really famous for, so how long this intricate slider will keep working is anyone's guess.

What I personally find most "interesting" is that Nokia apparently has no problems churning out revision after revision of S60Touch, but fixing Diablo is beyond their means...
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What I personally find most "interesting" is that Nokia apparently has no problems churning out revision after revision of S60Touch, but fixing Diablo is beyond their means...
Are you serious? What a pile of rubbish from you again.

S60 is their flagship. They were the market leader with Symbian. Now some competitors come with touch screen phones (for fingers). Now, they released one mid entry touch screen (for finger) phone (Nokia 5800) and a high-end one (Nokia N97). As market leader they're the last doing so!

Besides, they are doing Fremantle/Maemo 5.

Fremantle (for 'N900') and S60Touch (5800, N97) have in common that they're both for new devices; new hardware; means new cash cow. Well, duh.

Ofcourse Nokia isn't going to invest keeping the Nokia N8x0 series very much alive. There is no profit in that. Dohohoh. It won't be very different with Pandora, trust me. At best you get community support like a HE. Profit is first priority for a corporation.

Every SSU I get (and I assume a few due to N810 WME) I whisper thank you for the free support. For me, these are not expected.

Don't forget the N97 is scheduled 1st half of 2009. That is approx same time as Fremantle and 'N900'. Although its vague they won't be released very far from each other.
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Official word on Linux and Nokia phones:

http://www.reuters.com/article/marke...0081202?rpc=44
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Official word on Linux and Nokia phones:

http://www.reuters.com/article/marke...0081202?rpc=44
It's very nice they use Linux and support Linux for its devices. But more support to Linux users would be nicer. I am hoping see someday a Linux version of PC Suite, OVI Suite, the new released Maps on Ovi...
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