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I have no problem wishing you the best of luck. Regarding whether you were intentionally ripping someone off, I think that Expansys is much worse - they advertise one price, orders come in and then they more than TRIPLE the price to $700 - more than the price on the Nokia Store- classic bait and switch. The only reason they are going to get any orders at that price is because someone didn't see the email from them or because someone is reluctant to be pushed to the back of the pre-order line and so doesn't cancel and switch to the Nokia store. I think that they should be slapped with a class action suit, and I certainly have no problem with them actually honoring a sale.
 
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You can already do that with the n800/n810 sort of. With Google chat (granted it's terrible quality).
Well....(a) I don't have an n800/810 and I'm not going to buy one...and (b) if the n900 hasn't managed to figure out how to do good quality video chat then I'm canceling my order - it is a primary driver for my purchase. A showstopper.
 
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Originally Posted by bocaJ View Post
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I have no problem wishing you the best of luck. Regarding whether you were intentionally ripping someone off, I think that Expansys is much worse .....
I don't get how anybody is saying that he is trying to intentionally rip them off.

How many people did the preorder when the price was $199? A bunch. I'd imagine. By the logic being used, all of them were trying to rip Expansys off. |||EDIT http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31031 |||

He just lucked out that they have a funky pay-the-f**k-now policy for people in Trinidad and Tobago.

If anything, they were the greedy ones.
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If you see a price of $199 and go for it, that's fine. If they turn around and say "that was a mistake" and you insist they honor the price, you're a thief.
 
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Originally Posted by Hogwash View Post
If you see a price of $199 and go for it, that's fine. If they turn around and say "that was a mistake" and you insist they honor the price, you're a thief.
Maybe you should reread the situation, because obviously some part of it went over your head.


He did the $199 preorder like many others.

The difference is, most of the others got contacted saying that the price was incorrect. Rather than telling Dormant that, they said, "Pay us ~$300 now and you'll get your N900."

There was no haggling / argument involved. They charged him, he gets it for that price. It's that simple.
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Originally Posted by ceeceebee View Post
In The IM framework is Ovi, Skype, Google Talk, and Jabber. Most of these (if not all save skype) are built on the OMA Open IM standards. I assume that other will come, but not sure of the route. The framework makes it harder for people like NimBuzz to make a living my adding a a full client, as the client is already there - you just plug in the plumbing. And there is no money in plumbing. Maybe the AIM and YM guys will do it, but again without a client to show adverts, why would they bother? Maybe Open Source to the rescue, but some of these protocols have to be licen$ed. hard nut to crack.
True, meh, that means having to run an extra program like Pidgin, shame it's not likely for AIM and YM and other popular messaging platforms to do standard IM.

Though in an ideal world they would implement a basic IM client through the framework and then create their own application for audio/video chat where they could then display ads or whatever makes them revenue.

Originally Posted by Hogwash View Post
Well....(a) I don't have an n800/810 and I'm not going to buy one...and (b) if the n900 hasn't managed to figure out how to do good quality video chat then I'm canceling my order - it is a primary driver for my purchase. A showstopper.
What I meant, is that if it was doable back in the n800/n810 on Maemo 4 it should be doable on Maemo 5 with the n900. Especially since the camera is even better I would expect the video chat would be better. So while we may not have video Skype (though right now nobody has mobile video skype..outside of laptops) we can at least use Google Talk. The only reason why I mentioned Skype is because when you say video calling you think Skype.
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If you see a price of $199 and go for it, that's fine. If they turn around and say "that was a mistake" and you insist they honor the price, you're a thief.
Hmmm, do you know the meaning of eponysterical?
 

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"They charged him, he gets it for that price. It's that simple. "

No. It's not that simple. If a mistake was made in the advertised pricing, then he should pay the correct price or reject the transaction.

He has no right to the anything before the transaction is mutually agreed.

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No. It's not that simple. If a mistake was made in the advertised pricing, then he should pay the correct price or reject the transaction.

He has no right to the anything before the transaction is mutually agreed.
For real?

The transaction WAS mutually agreed, they charged him ~$300 on his credit card!!!!


Sheesh.
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Hmmm, do you know the meaning of eponysterical?
LMFAO I had to google that.

Nice.
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