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2009-12-04
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Does anyone have a clue does gstreamer use Inloop Deblocking? And if it uses is there any way to disable it?
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2009-12-04
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Well the problem is that _nobody_ has a "Plain vanilla, *.avi"
Plan, vanilla, *.avi that anybody here could test on their N900 since I don't have one
I someone test such a file, doesn't mean test of someone else wouldn't fail.
In this thread it has been confirmed that AVI files play well, it has also been confirmed that they don't play well. Both are right because the real question is not about AVI.
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2009-12-04
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Originally Posted by gerbick
The point is that there's no such thing as "plain, vanilla avi". It's a container format(like wmv, mkv etc.). The file is a package inside of which there are video and audio files which can be encoded in _a lot_ of different ways. The N900 can unpack the package, but if there's no support for decoding the actual files inside it then it won't play. So the answer is that it plays some avi files and doesn't play others. Luckily support for more codecs can be installed unlike on many other devices.
I'd honestly rather steer away from semantics and just go with the obvious.
Does it play *.avi files out of the box or not? If so, the OP is wrong. If not, then his statement stands. Not some massaged version of an *.avi either. Plan, vanilla, *.avi that anybody here could test on their N900 since I don't have one, waiting to see how the update pattern will shake out first.
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2009-12-04
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Yes, it does.
Does it play *.avi files out of the box or not?
Plan, vanilla, *.avi that anybody here could test
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2009-12-04
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A "plain, vanilla *.avi" is one that has not been processed through FFMPEG, Handbrake or Adobe After Effects or translated from *.mov to *.avi, for example or has some other codec involved.
It actually does exist and I'm not quite sure what you lot are on about... but that will invariably become the sole picking point due to some implicit mastery of all filetypes, et al of this discussion going forward instead of the one important part...
You people did answer the question if it plays *.avi's out of the box and it seems as if the OP is grossly incorrect. Congrats. It took multiple pages to confirm/deny something that simple.
Regardless, it seems as if the ability to play certain *.avi or *.wmv's - WMV9 DRM and above are definitely out. That kind of detailed information would help in instances as such.
Last edited by gerbick; 2009-12-04 at 10:16.
It actually does exist and I'm not quite sure what you lot are on about... but that will invariably become the sole picking point due to some implicit mastery of all filetypes, et al of this discussion going forward instead of the one important part...
You people did answer the question if it plays *.avi's out of the box and it seems as if the OP is grossly incorrect. Congrats. It took multiple pages to confirm/deny something that simple.
Regardless, it seems as if the ability to play certain *.avi or *.wmv's - WMV9 DRM and above are definitely out. That kind of detailed information would help in instances as such.
Last edited by gerbick; 2009-12-04 at 10:16.
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2009-12-04
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Originally Posted by olighak
Luckily, the N900 can do that, too. I just tried an uncompressed PCM .wav, and it appeared and played in the media player as it should. Note that .wav, just like avi, is a container format. You can have anything from uncompressed PCM to MP3 in there.
.wav is a pretty basic format for any player to play. It is probably the most generic format used.
I donīt remember many players Iīve had, $5 in value and above that couldnīt play the format.
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2009-12-04
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Originally Posted by gerbick
I thought you wanted to steer away from semantics? If by *.avi you actually mean all files that have the extension .avi and by playing you mean that you can actually see and hear video and audio then it's not that straightforward.
A "plain, vanilla *.avi" is one that has not been processed through FFMPEG, Handbrake or Adobe After Effects or translated from *.mov to *.avi, for example or has some other codec involved.
It actually does exist and I'm not quite sure what you lot are on about... but that will invariably become the sole picking point due to some implicit mastery of all filetypes, et al of this discussion going forward instead of the one important part...
You people did answer the question if it plays *.avi's out of the box and it seems as if the OP is grossly incorrect. Congrats. It took multiple pages to confirm/deny something that simple.
Regardless, it seems as if the ability to play certain *.avi or *.wmv's - WMV9 DRM and above are definitely out. That kind of detailed information would help in instances as such.
Edit: I'm not sure whether you know more than I do, and there are multiple versions of the avi container format or you simply don't understand what avi file is?
Last edited by jsa; 2009-12-04 at 10:34.
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2009-12-04
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Do you expect avi files just magically appear into existence? Are they maybe born somewhere
A "plain, vanilla *.avi" is one that has not been processed through FFMPEG, Handbrake or Adobe After Effects or translated from *.mov to *.avi, for example or has some other codec involved.
Why is it so difficult to understand: N900 opens AVI files, but may not necessary be able to decode the contents of it.
This thread is multiple pages long because some readers refuse to understand that the problem/question is not do AVI files play or not, but does N900 come with every possible codec in existence and does it have the horsepower to tolerate stupid and faulty encodes.
For which the answer is no.
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2009-12-04
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Other than what ? There is no 'standard' codec, unless you declare a standard with 'ships with the OS of my choice'. The problem is that the question is complex and the people are often asking the wrong question and then misinterpreting the results. When they say 'does it play .avi', the answer is 'yes, it is compatible with the .avi container format'. Then you get the 'but it doesn't work with my avi, you are wrong !'. However the question was worded poorly to start with, it should have been 'does it play back XYZ codecs in UVW resolutions which are distributed in an .avi container ?'. THEN you could answer with an unequivocal YES or NO, otherwise you can only guesstimate what the OP wanted to use.
A "plain, vanilla *.avi" is one that has not been processed through FFMPEG, Handbrake or Adobe After Effects or translated from *.mov to *.avi, for example or has some other codec involved.
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Does it play *.avi files out of the box or not? If so, the OP is wrong. If not, then his statement stands. Not some massaged version of an *.avi either. Plan, vanilla, *.avi that anybody here could test on their N900 since I don't have one, waiting to see how the update pattern will shake out first.