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2010-02-17
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Originally Posted by SirMuttley
I thought the reports said they were dropping debian and basing it off of Red Hat?
1. It's not a completely new OS
2. M6 was announced before the N900 was even released
3. M6 having multitouch doesn't mean it wont work on the N900, just means multi touch wont work, alternatives could be supplied (there are 3 different ways to zoom in MicroB)
4. Sound like a broken record here but, M6 was never promised for N900.
As far as I can tell the MeeGo announcement has made no real difference to the N900. M6 will still be released as planned just with a different name. It'll still be debian based, it'll still use QT, it'll most likely still run on ARM hardware. So the N900 is still in exactly the same boat it was in when released 3 months ago.
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2010-02-17
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Originally Posted by SirMuttley
indeed, you're right on that. However when Nokia can't/won't even tell us what to expect and when to expect it for Maemo 5/N900. There is no guarantee that they won't drop it and leave it unsupported because they've just kept quiet. Nokia have previously even promised features for a range of phones (N-Gage support) only to then quietly forget about it. They've made faulty, poorly designed and under-specced phones and not supported them with a long-enough support period. The point of this thread seems to be to say to Nokia this won't do and can you please tell us what's going on... not exactly a big ask!
1. It's not a completely new OS
2. M6 was announced before the N900 was even released
3. M6 having multitouch doesn't mean it wont work on the N900, just means multi touch wont work, alternatives could be supplied (there are 3 different ways to zoom in MicroB)
4. Sound like a broken record here but, M6 was never promised for N900.
As far as I can tell the MeeGo announcement has made no real difference to the N900. M6 will still be released as planned just with a different name. It'll still be debian based, it'll still use QT, it'll most likely still run on ARM hardware. So the N900 is still in exactly the same boat it was in when released 3 months ago.
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2010-02-17
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Originally Posted by stopgap
Does anyone on this thread seriously thing that Nokia doesn't realize that the members of Maemo.org would like to know whether the N900 will be upgradable to the next OS (whatever it's name and/or architecture)?
indeed, you're right on that. However when Nokia can't/won't even tell us what to expect and when to expect it for Maemo 5/N900. There is no guarantee that they won't drop it and leave it unsupported because they've just kept quiet. Nokia have previously even promised features for a range of phones (N-Gage support) only to then quietly forget about it. They've made faulty, poorly designed and under-specced phones and not supported them with a long-enough support period. The point of this thread seems to be to say to Nokia this won't do and can you please tell us what's going on... not exactly a big ask!
Does anyone on this thread seriously think that if Nokia knew the answer was "yes" they wouldn't already have said it?
Nokia clearly isn't willing to commit to backwards compatibility at this point. No "open letter" is going to change this.
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2010-02-17
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Originally Posted by Shervin
This is true for the ultimate aim of MeeGo, but not for Harmattan.
I thought the reports said they were dropping debian and basing it off of Red Hat?
I'd suggest reading this post:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=14
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2010-02-17
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Originally Posted by DaveP1
Well said.
Does anyone on this thread seriously thing that Nokia doesn't realize that the members of Maemo.org would like to know whether the N900 will be upgradable to the next OS (whatever it's name and/or architecture)?
Does anyone on this thread seriously think that if Nokia knew the answer was "yes" they wouldn't already have said it?
Nokia clearly isn't willing to commit to backwards compatibility at this point. No "open letter" is going to change this.
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2010-02-17
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Originally Posted by SirMuttley
Thank you! I get it now. Now I just want more information about the n900 support and the EOL of the product... What direction they want to head and so on with the phone.
This is true for the ultimate aim of MeeGo, but not for Harmattan.
I'd suggest reading this post:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=14
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2010-02-17
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Originally Posted by DaveP1
Of course they know.
Does anyone on this thread seriously thing that Nokia doesn't realize that the members of Maemo.org would like to know whether the N900 will be upgradable to the next OS (whatever it's name and/or architecture)?
Does anyone on this thread seriously think that if Nokia knew the answer was "yes" they wouldn't already have said it?
Nokia clearly isn't willing to commit to backwards compatibility at this point. No "open letter" is going to change this.
I do believe they wouldn't have said it if they knew the answer was yes. A combination of commercial sensitivity, dreadful PR and seemingly (observed over 10 years of owning Nokia phones) growing contempt for existing customers is why.
I for one just want to know what is going on with Maemo 5 and the N900. Details of Maemo 6 or MeeGo would be great also, but right now Nokia have not clearly laid out what at a minimum will happen for the N900.
Open letters can make a difference if you make enough noise and get the right people to look at them. In combination with blogging, social network sites, articles and even press coverage (if you can get them to pick it up) you can change the way a company operates. It is a shame that people get called trolls for taking first steps in this process. I cite the Sony "rootkit" scandal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BM...ection_scandal) as direct evidence of how making noise can change things.
Nokia have done what we're talking about before and I fear they'll do it again...
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2010-02-24
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Originally Posted by wmarone
personally I added this noob (grope-it) to my ignore list a long time ago. I think his lack of knowledge and common sense shine thru on most of his posts.
Even though you changed it, you're still making an utterly baseless claim. Stop fearmongering and making "Letters to Nokia" when you have zero backing for your statements.
I welcome you to prove your point, however.
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2010-02-24
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Nokia are not going to listen to anyone.
If you want my demands/requests then they are:
1. Better customer service (at least upto apple's standards)
2 .Proper firmware changes/updates rather than small things at a time
3. Would like to see Meego happening on the N900
Don't gun me for mentioning apple, i am anti-apple! lol I just sed that as i have seen an heard of their outstanding customer service, an nokia is absolutly sh.. an dnt give a toss. Nw u folk are prob thinking well why are u on here an why have u got an n900? Coz I will never buy an iphone or an apple gadget, I have always liked nokia. I have tried other brands such as LG, motorolla etc but they are really bad to use. Yea they got the looks but use wise naah not for me.
Anyhow if u need any signature or backing on the letter then kl let me knw. I wish nokia would for once listen to us the community and quit acting like they are government officials - arrogant stuck up ar*se h**es! :-/
If you want my demands/requests then they are:
1. Better customer service (at least upto apple's standards)
2 .Proper firmware changes/updates rather than small things at a time
3. Would like to see Meego happening on the N900
Don't gun me for mentioning apple, i am anti-apple! lol I just sed that as i have seen an heard of their outstanding customer service, an nokia is absolutly sh.. an dnt give a toss. Nw u folk are prob thinking well why are u on here an why have u got an n900? Coz I will never buy an iphone or an apple gadget, I have always liked nokia. I have tried other brands such as LG, motorolla etc but they are really bad to use. Yea they got the looks but use wise naah not for me.
Anyhow if u need any signature or backing on the letter then kl let me knw. I wish nokia would for once listen to us the community and quit acting like they are government officials - arrogant stuck up ar*se h**es! :-/
2. M6 was announced before the N900 was even released
3. M6 having multitouch doesn't mean it wont work on the N900, just means multi touch wont work, alternatives could be supplied (there are 3 different ways to zoom in MicroB)
4. Sound like a broken record here but, M6 was never promised for N900.
As far as I can tell the MeeGo announcement has made no real difference to the N900. M6 will still be released as planned just with a different name. It'll still be debian based, it'll still use QT, it'll most likely still run on ARM hardware. So the N900 is still in exactly the same boat it was in when released 3 months ago.