http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...214#post508214

Unfortunately I feel that the way this situation have been handled reflect the whole immaturity of the platform...

So long N900

How exactly are the long term interests of the platform served by having poor quality software fraudulently rammed into the repositories?

Not at any price. He did absolutely the wrong thing and deliberately abused the system. In a community it's important to deal with things in the open so people can make their own decisions about things. Given that SIO2 has shown a willingness to exploit a security/process bug for financial gain I'm not going to let any of his code near my systems, and I wouldn't suggest anyone else did either. Why should people be kept in the dark about such behaviour?

As a general point I'd be all for relegating non-Free software to Ovi - it's just not possible to do the sorts of proper QA that I'd expect from a community repo without proper access to the source.

Here we go...

The religous zealot war has begun.

Give sio2interactive a break!
He admitted he did something wrong and apologised.

I'm giving home the benefit of the doubt and will let his actions speak for him.
Judgng by the posts on this thread I think he has learnt his lesson!

If anybody here wants this platform to be successful then commercial software should be welcomed.

Paying for software is a personal choice. If I use an app and I am then expected to pay for it that's fine. If there is an open-source version I may use that instead - if it is good enough.

I thought one of the benefits of this open source malarky is the freedom of choice.

I can use an open source app if I want to or pay for a commercial app instead. It's up to me.

If no app exists then I may write my own. I may charge for it or I may open source it - that's my choice.

The SDK for maemo is completely free - I don't need to spend a small fortune for developer tools like some other platforms.

Before I bought the n900 I quite happily paid for software for my Palm T3. I bought a fully-capable officesuite (mobi-office about £20) which I used constantly. I also bought a couple of games for it too.

If the software works and the price is right then I will buy it.

If you are completely against commerical software then write your own open source equivalent.

What's wrong with paying for software?

This was a non-zero sum situation.

Both parties could've benefited from that situation, IF handled properly.

Now, both parties have incurred losses due to the way it was handled.

As I said earlier, Sio2 made a bold mistake - a mistake that might be difficult to forget for everyone. However, this bad rep isn't of Sio2's interest either. Sio2's contributions to the platform should be appreciated as well, as the platform really need developers like Sio2. But that doesn't mean this act was justified...

Why not find a way to bring a solution to this? I'm sure about that good reputation is also important for Sio2; instead of complaining about what he shouldn't have done, why not suggest what Sio2 should do to change your mind. After all, he had the power to somehow publish commercial games for Maemo - something that no one has succeeded to do earlier...

I haven't seen any real apology here. Only "it was just a little thing I exploited, nothing serious" -lines

Good Idea, lets go buy stuff from Ovi............

Having said that, if Ovi store was working we wouldn't really be having this kind of issue on maemo.org, and Nokia should not be dependant on the community solving it's paid app problems, or all the development problems.

As long as such apps are relegated to a special category that indicates that the developer's profits supercedes the end users security and is easily blockable that would be fine.

Not until you turned up. 'Zealot' indeed - as if that's a way to hold a reasonable discussion.

No, he didn't. He said he 'couldn't be blamed' for exploiting a bug because Ovi isn't working yet. That's crap.

In brief:
- You can pay for (and sell) free software.
- You don't have to agree with the philosophy of free software, but the reasoning is pretty clear. It's also clearly nothing to do with getting paid vs not.
- The reaction to the commercial apps has mostly been good. The bad reaction was to the deliberate perpetration of a fraud.

just bumping this from the beginning of the thread.