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2010-10-21
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Originally Posted by ysss
Optimism? I'd rather want Symbian to evolve and develop, since it is a better OS for mobile devices than Linux ever will be. But MeeGo will eventually just roll over it by brute force alone, it's inevitable. In the same manner MeeGo will eventually roll over Android and WinMo7. Trust me.
Your level of optimism is rather amazing.
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2010-10-21
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Originally Posted by ericsson
Reeeeeeeeeeally? How so?
I'd rather want Symbian to evolve and develop, since it is a better OS for mobile devices than Linux ever will be.
And if you plan to mention anything that the user interacts with it, then I suggest re-thinking your statements. If the user interacts with it, you can run the exact same software on Linux (or any other OS.)
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Originally Posted by wmarone
Symbian is made from the ground to be a mobile OS. Linux is just a hack of an old OS for switchboards. Symbian is better integrated with hardware and runs more efficient. Better processors and HW in general makes this difference smaller, especially or high end devices, and Linux is much simpler and more flexible. Linux is like Windows (desktop), sloppy, imprecise and power hungry (but powerful with enough CPU), and Symbian is more like a real time OS similar to Windows CE.
Reeeeeeeeeeally? How so?
And if you plan to mention anything that the user interacts with it, then I suggest re-thinking your statements. If the user interacts with it, you can run the exact same software on Linux (or any other OS.)
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2010-10-21
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Originally Posted by ericsson
This isn't really the kind of explanation I was looking for, since it's bereft of useful information and mostly contains subjective attacks against Linux
Symbian is made from the ground to be a mobile OS. Linux is just a hack of an old OS for switchboards. Symbian is better integrated with hardware and runs more efficient. Better processors and HW in general makes this difference smaller, especially or high end devices, and Linux is much simpler and more flexible. Linux is like Windows (desktop), sloppy, imprecise and power hungry (but powerful with enough CPU), and Symbian is more like a real time OS similar to Windows CE.
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2010-10-22
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Originally Posted by ericsson
Cannot Linux be morphed into a Mobile Linux, more efficient and better integrated with the hardware? Linux flexibility should allow you to make such such a fork, shouldn't it?
Symbian is made from the ground to be a mobile OS. Linux is just a hack of an old OS for switchboards. Symbian is better integrated with hardware and runs more efficient. Better processors and HW in general makes this difference smaller, especially or high end devices, and Linux is much simpler and more flexible. Linux is like Windows (desktop), sloppy, imprecise and power hungry (but powerful with enough CPU), and Symbian is more like a real time OS similar to Windows CE.
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2010-10-22
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Originally Posted by ericsson
Apple's iOS is based on BSD and it would appear to have made a far better mobile OS than Symbian. Android is based on Linux, similarly make its own waves. They both provided a far more middle-ground between phone and computer. If you hadn't noticed, it was because EVERYONE ELSE was doing something better than Symbian finally had to give in and evolve to play catch-up. By your reckoning, Symbian would STILL qualify as much of a modern OS as GEOS on a Commodore 64 was a modern OS when it tried to help the C64 modernize.
Symbian is made from the ground to be a mobile OS. Linux is just a hack of an old OS for switchboards. Symbian is better integrated with hardware and runs more efficient. Better processors and HW in general makes this difference smaller, especially or high end devices, and Linux is much simpler and more flexible. Linux is like Windows (desktop), sloppy, imprecise and power hungry (but powerful with enough CPU), and Symbian is more like a real time OS similar to Windows CE.
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2010-10-22
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Originally Posted by Wikiwide
Yes, up to a point, but Linux simply is a poor RTOS by any standard. The thing is that both Symbian and Windows CE didn't really evolve over the last 5-6 years. In particular this was evident in the UX department. Linux and BSD/Unix or whatever the iOS really is have evolved at a great speed, most of it in the UX department.
Cannot Linux be morphed into a Mobile Linux, more efficient and better integrated with the hardware? Linux flexibility should allow you to make such such a fork, shouldn't it?
For internet tablets and similar, there is no need for complex real time hardware interaction, for phones there is. Without a real OS, more complex things like multitasking, will suck the battery life empty in no time. Maemo is great in multitasking, but battery life is abysmal compared with Symbian.
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2010-10-22
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Originally Posted by Cue
then macs have only stupid users.
I disagree, it's not just a marketing slogan. I think being closed has one advantage and this is it.
finnish mac forum
http://www.hopeinenomena.net/viewforum.php?f=50
section: problems with apple
12643 threads
I rest my case.
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2010-10-22
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Originally Posted by ossipena
well if what you say is true and mac users "are stupid" then surely (can't read Finnish) a large majority of the questions are "where is the any key".
then macs have only stupid users.
finnish mac forum
http://www.hopeinenomena.net/viewforum.php?f=50
section: problems with apple
12643 threads
I rest my case.
joking aside I'm not saying macs have no problems just that when you limit freedom you can make things work better in unison in the short term but risk falling behind in features or any other forms of progress in the long term. Also if you limit the users freedom there is less chance for the user to break something. The very reason perhaps why you say "stupid users" like the mac. There must be a reason why they like it, right?
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