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2013-01-25
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#72
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Originally Posted by shmerl
And why starting a new poll (and thread) when there was one already existing?
Related poll: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=88790
Basically, what is discussed here, is covered by points 1-5 in the previous proposal:
1. In section OS / Platform add "Mer / Nemo / Plasma Active / Sailfish" section, and move relevant threads to there. Try to coordinate with people at these projects and encourage them to participate here.
2. Archive section OS2006 / Maemo 2 / Mistral - Scirocco - Gregale
3. Add a section for Nitdroid. Coordinate with Nitdroid guys to move all the stuff from Nitdroid forums here, if they agree.
4. In section Devices merge subsections for Nokia N810/N800/N700. We will create new sections for upcoming devices.
5. The old section might be less visible to avoid clutter in the main page.
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2013-01-25
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#73
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6. Can application section be splitted in maemo and harmattan?
If application targets both plstforms then go in upper section
Applications
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Just a proposal and regarding other subforums. I dont think other devices except for maemo devices deserve so much diiferent sectionsnas the maemo devices. So IMO mer should be have a subforum in competitors, alternatives or whatever, but it should NOT have its own development, application forum. The main focus should be Maemo and maemo only, IMO.
If application targets both plstforms then go in upper section
Applications
|-Harmattan
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|-fremantle
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|-[ANNOUNCE both]
Just a proposal and regarding other subforums. I dont think other devices except for maemo devices deserve so much diiferent sectionsnas the maemo devices. So IMO mer should be have a subforum in competitors, alternatives or whatever, but it should NOT have its own development, application forum. The main focus should be Maemo and maemo only, IMO.
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N900 loaded with:
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N9 16GB loaded with:
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2013-01-25
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#74
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Originally Posted by mr_pingu
IMO each major sub-forum (within each section e.g: maemo, mer, alternative, competitors) should just have it's own "Applications" sub-forum.
6. Can application section be splitted in maemo and harmattan?
If application targets both plstforms then go in upper section
Applications
|-Harmattan
|--[ANNOUNCE N9]
|-fremantle
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|-[ANNOUNCE both]
But you should be able to add "tags" for more than just the sub-forum you're posting in, so that (if necessary) it can appear in more than one at once.
No idea if that sort of thing is possible with VBulletin though...
Just a proposal and regarding other subforums, I dont think other devices except for maemo devices deserve so much diiferent sectionsnas the maemo devices. So IMO mer should be have a subforum in competitors, alternatives or whatever, but it should NOT have its own development, application forum. The main focus should be Maemo and maemo only, IMO.
There's one nextgen Qt mobile device coming out this yr, possibly more, within 18mth there'll definitely be at least 3, & that's not even including BBX or the HTML5-centric platforms.
If Hildon is to be a strong entity 2yrs from now, it needs to embrace more than just Maemo 4-6x.
It needs to do so fully not half-heartedly, & it needs to do so soon, before other sites become the "go to" place.
*except amongst a minuscule & hard-core group of well-informed enthusiasts
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2013-01-25
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#75
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Originally Posted by jalyst
So what are you saying, jump on the android/iOS bandwagon just to be relevant?
Maemo has no future*, do you know of any new Maemo devices coming out this year?
Not including BBX there's at least one Qt mobile device coming out, possibly more...
If Hildon is to be a strong entity 2yrs from now, it needs to embrace more than just Maemo 4-6x.
It needs to do so fully not half-heartedly, & it needs to do so soon, before other places become the "go to" place.
*except amongst a minuscule & hard-core group of well-informed enthusiasts
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2013-01-25
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#76
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Originally Posted by ivgalvez
Maybe even do away with devices section entirely (archive), only have:
And why starting a new poll (and thread) when there was one already existing?
Basically, what is discussed here, is covered by points 1-5 in the previous proposal:
1. In section OS / Platform add "Mer / Nemo / Plasma Active / Sailfish" section, and move relevant threads to there. Try to coordinate with people at these projects and encourage them to participate here.
2. Archive section OS2006 / Maemo 2 / Mistral - Scirocco - Gregale
3. Add a section for Nitdroid. Coordinate with Nitdroid guys to move all the stuff from Nitdroid forums here, if they agree.
4. In section Devices merge subsections for Nokia N810/N800/N700. We will create new sections for upcoming devices.
5. The old section might be less visible to avoid clutter in the main page.
N.B. Title = Section * = Sub-forum
Maemo OS
*Maemo 4x
*Maemo 5x (freemantle)
*Maemo 6x (meego-harmattan)
MeR-based OS
*Nemo
*Sailfish
*Plasma Active
Ubuntu (maybe, YTBD)
*Ubuntu
BBX (maybe, YTBD)
*BBX
Alternatives (a better, more descriptive, title needed)
*NITdroid
(following could maybe be moved to their own HTML5-based OS section eventually, but possibly not for approx. 1yr)
*Tizen
*FFOS
*OpenWebOS
(maybe the following under a sub-heading?)
*GarnetVM
*Debian Chroot
*WebOS games emulation layer (name escapes me)
*etc.
Competitors (WP, Android, iOS, BBX(maybe), Symbian etc)
We could have sub-forums, or just keep as is, with threads only?
Buying & Selling
*Buying
*Selling
Originally Posted by thedead1440
Perhaps we could have a prefix (tags kinda) that one must chose from in a drop-down list?
Keep the devices sections so that when for example the Jolla phone releases it can have its own section while any Sailfish for N9(00) would be in the N9(00) sections instead of crowding the OS section...
So if you're in the Sailfish sub-forum & you're starting a new thread, you'd have to chose from:
Jolla or N900 or N9/950 & devchat or end-user & apps or OS/core_apps etc.*
This would either plonk the thread in a further sub-forum under Sailfish, or perhaps just tag it.
So that, depending on what filtering you've chosen, it will/won't appear in the Sailfish sub-forum.
The same or similar methodology could be applied for ALL the sub-forums, not sure if VBulletin has that kind of utility.
*It could default to something from each of those sections, or it could require that you get it right from the outset.
Ideally it'd be retrospectively amendable....
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2013-01-25
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#77
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Keep the devices sections so that when for example the Jolla phone releases it can have its own section while any Sailfish for N9(00) would be in the N9(00) sections instead of crowding the OS section...
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2013-01-25
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#78
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Originally Posted by jalyst
I was elected to lead, not to read!
No Dave, you haven't been reading again have you, try re-reading the last 5pages or so
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2013-01-25
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#79
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I agree with jalyst - each OS subsection should have devices/applications etc. subcategories. Since devices discussions are usually not purely hardware related, but most often are tied to particular OS running on that device.
@ivgalvez: This poll only adds to the one you started before, and they show the same thing - subforums for new OSes are needed. Now it's up to the actual moderators of the forum to create them.
Last edited by shmerl; 2013-01-25 at 14:39.
@ivgalvez: This poll only adds to the one you started before, and they show the same thing - subforums for new OSes are needed. Now it's up to the actual moderators of the forum to create them.
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2013-01-25
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#80
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There is also the issue related to number of threads. If we adding lots of subs we will automatically get several threads. Let's say you have an app forking for 4 os. Expect 4 threads... Is that what we want?
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It's not that threads couldn't be moved if deemed neccessary in the future, due to reorganizing again!?
(Seriously, just look how long took it until the 'Concil Elections' banner was exchanged to the 'Donate' banner?!)
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