Originally Posted by pichlo

N9 really is the sweet spot size-wise. But the announcement said something big is about to begin, not to arrive. "Begin" suggests a continuous action, not an object. A film can begin, a picture can't.

In other words, they got the countdown wrong. Something big has already begun: a lot of pointless speculation in this thread.

Originally Posted by ZogG

Different size phone => not compatible TOHs(official ones cost not cheap). That would be rude. I asked Jolla about TOH compatibility on twitter several times and on one of the first IRC meeting, and though other people were interested to know to, no one answered.
But I think if you have TOHs you need to keep up compatibility, at least for phones.

Originally Posted by dirkvl

Keeping TOH compatability in future devices bring up so incredibly much restrictions on other aspects of the design that it would be downright stupid to even consider this as an option. It is impossible to please everyone, but enforcing these restrictions on themselves would prevent any possibility of moving forward.

If the design of a future model is not yet complete or certain aspects are not yet determined, they will never state anything about this. I wouldn't also.



I can only hope that for future models I can hazz access to proto models We'll see what they come up with at Slush! Looking forward to it!

Originally Posted by nodevel

I think that the hints are quite clear, let me elaborate and sum up all information:

• It's definitely a hardware, not software announcement (it clearly shows a device of some kind)
• If it is a new device by Jolla, then it is not a phone. 1) The next phone is planned for H2 2015 and this is early to announce it. 2) Dirk has worked with Jolla on the TOHKBD and nobody expected it would go so well. Announcing a new device incompatible with TOH (as the word BIG would suggest) in the middle of the Kickstarter campaign wouldn't make any sense. 3) The teaser claims it is a beginning - 2nd phone would not be a beginning. 4) If it was a phone, it would have to be BIG and that's not what most of current Jolla customers are calling for.
• If it is made by Jolla, it probably isn't a tablet either - the tablet market grows way less (if at all) than the phone market and it is already very difficult to succeed there. Splitting forces to make a tablet wouldn't make much sense.
• The teaser talks about a beginning and the main focus of Jolla was to bring SailfishOS to other manufacturers. Therefore I think that the announcement is about a new device (and partnership) with other manufacturer.
• I think that it has a lot to do with the sale coupons Jolla has been offering last few weeks. They are clearing the shelf, because other manufacturers are likely to have a better price point.
• Judging by the teased design, I would say the partner might be Xiaomi, but it might be just a wishful thinking

Originally Posted by nthn

I think your conclusion could be right, but where do you get the info that a second phone is planned for H2 2015? Speculation?

Originally Posted by dirkvl

Keeping TOH compatability in future devices bring up so incredibly much restrictions on other aspects of the design that it would be downright stupid to even consider this as an option. It is impossible to please everyone, but enforcing these restrictions on themselves would prevent any possibility of moving forward.

Originally Posted by Morpog

I guess it will be a tablet. Jaakko Roppola, Jollas chief UI designer, had a blog post about Sailfish UI on a tablet a while ago. http://jaakkoroppola.blogspot.fi/201...r-screens.html

Apart from finalizing update10, we will start the following activities:
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- start the work on platform UI scalability, beginning with making icons resolution independent and improving layout scaling