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jalyst	2013-07-28 , 03:54
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing

Don't remember lf rockchip has been mentioned, but because vgrade has got a new toy rk3188 mentioned on twitter I got to check it and realized that rockchip is a Chinese company and also has mobile SoC. start made me think maybe its Jollaphone has some kind on rk3xxx chip?

http://liliputing.com/2013/01/rockch...f-of-2013.html

http://www.rock-chips.com/index.php?lang=en

Yes someone's mentioned it already IIRC, it's a possibility.
Possibly based on their dual core version mentioned here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockchip#RK31xx_series

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mikecomputing	2013-07-28 , 07:16
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Originally Posted by qwazix

and indeed there is a possibility for fully free on mobile

https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/...mobile-devices

I really doubt thats even possible, many hw manufactors does not even give out full techspec for theyr hw that makes it impossible write open drivers!

Now thats why libhybris exists... Because even if Canonical/Jolla want native Linux drivers they can't write them and instead have to use closed Android drivers. Remember that open plasmatablet? how much problem they got with hwmanufactor...

Especially all those new asian companys are bad on writing techspec.

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	Dave999	2013-07-28 , 07:33
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Is it 100% confirmed that jolla won't can/will release a real qwerty as other side?

Can the OS run in landscape med atm, otherwise it's an indication that no keyboard is imminent.

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mikecomputing	2013-07-28 , 08:06
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Originally Posted by jalyst

Yes someone's mentioned it already IIRC, it's a possibility.
Possibly based on their dual core version mentioned here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockchip#RK31xx_series

My guess is then 3066 with Mail400(means will probadly depend on libhybris) or 3168 with PowerVR(SGX no need for libhybris AFAIK)

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jalyst	2013-07-28 , 15:02
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Originally Posted by Dave999

Can the OS run in landscape med atm, otherwise it's an indication that no keyboard is imminent.

They said at one point that their focus is on portrait, which is a pretty good indicator what their immediate interest (at least) is. That doesn't mean they won't eventually focus much more on landscape, or make it easier for others, or that Nemo won't focus on it. It doesn't make much sense for it to be a priority right now, given that they're clearly launching w/a slate device. But who knows what'll happen not too long after launch, especially if the "Other Halves" are not just NFC triggered sw auto-runs, & can also do hw augmentation in which Jolla releases their own "Others Halves", or does so with partners. (But the latest speculation is that "true hw augmentation" is probably unlikely)

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marbleuser	2013-07-28 , 18:23
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for anybody who cares about X11 , i had a chat with stskeeps on irc and he pointed out that xwayland and xmir don't support opengl/egl. how many apps that affects i don't know. things like openscad are affected for sure.

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marbleuser	2013-07-28 , 18:26
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Originally Posted by Dave999

Is it 100% confirmed that jolla won't can/will release a real qwerty as other side?

Can the OS run in landscape med atm, otherwise it's an indication that no keyboard is imminent.

i thought that there was no landscspe mode, but someone corrected me and pointed out that the alpha sdk has support for landscape mode. maybe someone can confirm this is still the case for the beta sdk?

	Morpog	2013-07-28 , 20:14
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It has landscape support, they just won't use it in many apps.

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shmerl	2013-07-28 , 20:23
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Landscape mode is essential for the browser and e-reader for example.

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jalyst	2013-07-29 , 02:21
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Yep, which is what I was getting at by saying "it's not their focus"...
There's always some apps that naturally work better in landscape, so it makes sense to have a basic lvl of support.

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