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	thecursedfly	2009-09-21 , 15:14
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Originally Posted by AnimalMind

Question: So I guess USB2SERIAL for managing Cisco devices is out?

you can still use the bluetooth usb hub with the usb2serial cable you allready own... it's something more to buy and carry, but if it's absolutely necessary... (it's also something quite nobody needs btw..)

attila77	2009-09-21 , 15:17
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Originally Posted by hqh

Even with full USB OTG support a separate adapter would be required to connect USB devices with standard-A type plugs. This makes USB OTG largely useless for use cases like quickly needing to copy a file from a friend's hard drive or USB stick, unless you're always willing to carry an adapter with you.

Hm, don't know about others, but that was a non-issue for me - If I already had the space for the microB pigtail. I just put the male-to-male USB connector on the end, and then used the device with or without it depending on whether I needed to be host or not.

I agree that there are some valid use cases for host mode and it surely would be nice to have for hacking, but I don't see the lack of it as a deal-breaker in this type of device.

What type ? A smartphone or a mobile computer ? It's perfectly OK with the former but a bit of a letdown for the latter (even if the reasons are perfectly understandable)

Crashdamage	2009-09-21 , 15:19
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I realize this issue means a lot to many here in this forum. But for my day-to-day use it's a non-issue, I'd never use it. USB charging is much more handy for me. I'll get files moved around one way or another.

IMHO, when Nokia was forced, be it by USB standards, time constraints - whatever - for most N900 users, average users, users who may never see this forum, that USB charging is more important and they made the correct call on which to enable.

I'd be more interested in stuff like sync to Google contacts or especially, printing to bluetooth-enabled printers etc.

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AnimalMind	2009-09-21 , 15:28
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Originally Posted by thecursedfly

you can still use the bluetooth usb hub with the usb2serial cable you allready own... it's something more to buy and carry, but if it's absolutely necessary... (it's also something quite nobody needs btw..)

I understand that, but I work with Cisco devices on a daiy basis and thought this would be an awesome use as I would no longer need to carry around my laptop. Carrying a Bluetooth-USB-HUB I might as well still carry my laptop still.

mykenyc	2009-09-21 , 15:33
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Originally Posted by attila77

Hm, don't know about others, but that was a non-issue for me - If I already had the space for the microB pigtail. I just put the male-to-male USB connector on the end, and then used the device with or without it depending on whether I needed to be host or not.

What type ? A smartphone or a mobile computer ? It's perfectly OK with the former but a bit of a letdown for the latter (even if the reasons are perfectly understandable)

this is not really directly pointed to you just something i notice within a lot of message boards.

Like i posted before i can understand the let-down but i feel the community in itself and all others turn they back on certain problems like this one and say deal breaker. If the previous devices never had OTG i wonder if this would have been a problem. The only community i see that stands by there favorite makers are Iphone/apple fanboi's no matter what you tell them they will go the other end to make there iphone better than the other phone. I say as a community we see if this can be resolved , if not get a older maemo device if you feel you need OTG that bad.

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	thecursedfly	2009-09-21 , 15:37
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reading this: http://alturl.com/rpef
I didn't exactly understand what this device is anyway; if it's just a normal hub with a bluetooth dongle, then I don't see it happen to access a attached USB device like this...
anyway, the comment of that person might be a supposition or wrong statement..

I also found this: http://iogear.com/product/GUWH104/?P...593ddc920fce16
but the lines "It complies with the Multi-band OFDM Ultra Wide Band (UWB) 1.0 specification, and provides users with transmission speeds of up to 480Mbps" and "Additionally, the wireless frequency range of UWB helps avoid interference with other wireless devices like mobile phones, Wi-Fi networks, and Bluetooth devices" tell me it won't work on the N900... :/
and this: "This product does NOT connect with any other wireless technologies such as Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, cordless phones nor wireless control systems."

Last edited by thecursedfly; 2009-09-21 at 15:47. Reason: added stuff

Otaku	2009-09-21 , 15:43
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Originally Posted by thecursedfly

ps. couldn't something similar exist using WiFi ? isn't wifi "better" than bluetooth?

I've got to admit, I'm sure learning a lot of interesting things in this thread!

It looks like this gadget might do the trick for WiFi:
http://www.slashgear.com/belkins-wif...ur-usb-164802/

However it says it needs drivers for Windows or Mac use... not sure how you would access this from the N900.

EDIT: Ugh, looks like this thing needs a separate WiFi router to work. Not exactly portable. Still, at least it apparently works under Ubuntu.

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choubbi	2009-09-21 , 15:44
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I'll still need my N810 for USB flash drives and hard drives management, so I'll just keep it paired with my nokia 6300.

There's no point for me carrying the N900 instead of my 6300 since I have the N810, and the N900 just can't replace the N810 for my uses.

	allnameswereout	2009-09-21 , 15:45
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Originally Posted by talmage

That's what I do when I travel, so I don't need to bring a laptop. I have a couple of nice cameras. I use my N800 in host mode to copy pictures from each camera into the external SD card. I use Canola and/or Quiver to look at my pictures and show them to my traveling companions.

For your particular use case Eye Fi might be a solution. I'll just use N900 camera and wait until TransferJet (or similar technology) is a standard.

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	thecursedfly	2009-09-21 , 15:58
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what about this?
http://www.mpitech.com/mpitech.nsf/p...apters_en.html

just throwing in some ideas while doing research... i want to have a solution for this..