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Originally Posted by RevdKathy View Post
I tried Jaffa's complex method [...]
Gee, thanks. Spend lots of time on step-by-step instructions and this is the closest to a "thank you, but I couldn't quite follow them" :-/

[...] and got as far as "Unzip MPlayer-...-svn-30075.7z: put it in the directory created above" but the next bit was completely beyond me to understand how, where or what.
So, did you unzip the archive and put the files in C:\Program Files\tablet-encode?

Did you click on the link which I found which tries to explain how to change your PATH? Depending on your Windows version, it'll be something like:
  1. Open Control Panel > System
  2. Select the Advanced tab
  3. Click Environment Variables
  4. Under System Variables find the PATH entry.
  5. Click Edit
  6. At the start of it, add: C:\Program Files\tablet-encode;
  7. Click OK to close the edit dialogue.
  8. Click OK to close the Environment Variables dialogue.
  9. Click OK to close the System Properties dialogue.

This is the entirety of the actions required to complete step 6.

I wonder if you guys realise how incredibly simple things are when one is only used to working in windows. Click, install, play - it works. No command lines, no installing dependencies, no hunting for the right bits.
Have you ever tried getting a random exe to run on Windows?! ;-)

And, as I said, if someone helped me create an installer for tablet-encode on Windows, it would be that easy. But, to date, no-one's volunteered and I didn't think it was necessary:
  • There were pre-existing tools like Urho Konttori's MediaConverter which were installable.
  • No one asked.
  • I've got Cygwin installed and I don't need to follow step-by-step instructions, or use an installer, for my own code.

I resent the implication that I don't know that the steps are complex for someone inexperienced, BTW.
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Jaffa, believe me, I am iincredibly grateful My plan was to go through the thread and thank everyone when I finally get this working.

What stalled me in your instructions was that your linked-to page on how to change the PATH may have made sense to you, but it made none at all to me. It simply scared me and made me aware how out of my depth I am. I will try again (I'm on the wrong computer) with your fuller instructions. Thank you for them. Most of the problems in my understanding of this is that people start just one step further down the line than I can get with my own knowledge - and that missing step leaves me drowning.

I'd be delighted to bring my stupidity to help in any project to make this easy and straightforward, and offer my desktop (XP) and laptop (Vista) for testing/exploring. And my stupidity for you to test how basic stuff needs to be on! And even my hosting plan to provide hosting space if you wanted to create a windows version.

To whomever it was said (several pages back) that I should learn some basic code and commands - you are absolutely right... but at exactly the wrong moment. I am 4 months away from completing my current learning experience which is taking three years: I cannot simply decide to drop that this close to completion because I want to learn code instead. I have promised myself that in May, I will be doing exactly that - I've even enquired whether next year I might find an evening class at the local college. And believe me, if you guys think I'm a brainless nuisance now...

My problem is that I'm a dumb windows user: you want hardware? plug and play. You want software? D/l (or take off a cd) and in a few clicks you're done. Most of my friends would have got no further than "Open command prompt" before they'd have given up with "What's that?" Indeed, I have friends who make me go round and install any new piece of hardware or software for them - some of us really are that dumb/scared.

I am a natural Jack Russell. I will not let go of this ferret until I have defeated it. Thank you to everyone for sticking with me in my stupidity. And I promise that by whatever method I fix it, you will all get 'thanks' at the end.
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#83
Originally Posted by mysticrokks View Post
simple iphone mp4's work on a 'vanilla' n900
Problem is that this is at a much lower resolution than the N900 handles.
 
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Originally Posted by Fargus View Post
Problem is that this is at a much lower resolution than the N900 handles.
See the IronMan 2 trailer I posted in
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=38603
for an example of full res properly encoded file that looks fantastic.
 
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Originally Posted by RevdKathy View Post
Jaffa, believe me, I am iincredibly grateful My plan was to go through the thread and thank everyone when I finally get this working.

What stalled me in your instructions was that your linked-to page on how to change the PATH may have made sense to you, but it made none at all to me. It simply scared me and made me aware how out of my depth I am. I will try again (I'm on the wrong computer) with your fuller instructions. Thank you for them. Most of the problems in my understanding of this is that people start just one step further down the line than I can get with my own knowledge - and that missing step leaves me drowning.

I'd be delighted to bring my stupidity to help in any project to make this easy and straightforward, and offer my desktop (XP) and laptop (Vista) for testing/exploring. And my stupidity for you to test how basic stuff needs to be on! And even my hosting plan to provide hosting space if you wanted to create a windows version.

To whomever it was said (several pages back) that I should learn some basic code and commands - you are absolutely right... but at exactly the wrong moment. I am 4 months away from completing my current learning experience which is taking three years: I cannot simply decide to drop that this close to completion because I want to learn code instead. I have promised myself that in May, I will be doing exactly that - I've even enquired whether next year I might find an evening class at the local college. And believe me, if you guys think I'm a brainless nuisance now...

My problem is that I'm a dumb windows user: you want hardware? plug and play. You want software? D/l (or take off a cd) and in a few clicks you're done. Most of my friends would have got no further than "Open command prompt" before they'd have given up with "What's that?" Indeed, I have friends who make me go round and install any new piece of hardware or software for them - some of us really are that dumb/scared.

I am a natural Jack Russell. I will not let go of this ferret until I have defeated it. Thank you to everyone for sticking with me in my stupidity. And I promise that by whatever method I fix it, you will all get 'thanks' at the end.
Kathy,
this is something I need to address for myself too. This week is taken up with a client project but I will have a look next week at how to achieve this and let you know when it's done. If you can then help me check the instructions I come out with and screenshots then we can update the Wiki too.

In the meantime, if you get bored then check out Doom9 for some background reading and some good tutorials. There is a Specific Page on Mpeg-4 encoding too if you want some more detailed information.
 
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Originally Posted by Jaffa View Post
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And, as I said, if someone helped me create an installer for tablet-encode on Windows, it would be that easy. But, to date, no-one's volunteered and I didn't think it was necessary:
...
Were you looking to produce a Windows Wise Installer or similar? If so PING me back. If not then I might at least be able to work through your detailed instructions and give Kathy a set of screenshots to play with.
 
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Ok, I'm back.

Mucking around in the environment made me feel physically sick, but I did that bit. Unzipping tablet-encode cost me over half an hour as I don't actually have bit-zipper on any of my computers, but I got there in the end. They seem to want your first born in payment for that.

Running the command was complex - took me several shots to actually get it exactly right - but I have run it. It has output a response, the only bit of which I understand is 'be vewwy vewwy quiet'. Perhaps I can't get any further now until I can stop crying?

I never felt so utterly stupid in my life.
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long di
Originally Posted by RevdKathy View Post
Ok, I'm back.

Mucking around in the environment made me feel physically sick, but I did that bit. Unzipping tablet-encode cost me over half an hour as I don't actually have bit-zipper on any of my computers, but I got there in the end. They seem to want your first born in payment for that.

Running the command was complex - took me several shots to actually get it exactly right - but I have run it. It has output a response, the only bit of which I understand is 'be vewwy vewwy quiet'. Perhaps I can't get any further now until I can stop crying?

I never felt so utterly stupid in my life.
Kathy,
after having several long disucssions with you I can vouch for your not being stupid at all. This is just something a little out of your depth for a change (we both know the amusing bot on that comment ). I have a load on today and tomorrow but I will start looking at sorting out a set of step by step instructions and screenshots for you when I get 5 minutes.
 
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I remember seeing in a thread somewhere on this forum an entry about the N900 capabilities but I can't seem to locate it anywhere. Does anyone know a link to either this or where I can find decode combinations that are available, preferably GPU supported?
 
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Originally Posted by Fargus View Post
Were you looking to produce a Windows Wise Installer or similar? If so PING me back. If not then I might at least be able to work through your detailed instructions and give Kathy a set of screenshots to play with.
Anything which makes it easier to install is fine by me; and I'm happy to have a one-click install, or screenshotted instructions (assuming they work ;-)) hosted as part of the MediaUtils Garage project.

Personally, I've more experience with InnoSetup, but since it's a way down my priority list, I don't get too much of a say :-)
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