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brokensmile is offline brokensmile
2010-06-26 , 17:01
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#81
i installed and activated it but its showing contacts icon 2 times n many more icons two times how to solve it
 
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2010-06-26 , 17:42
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#82
Originally Posted by stone17 View Post
I cant get Maepad to any folders. I gues its wierd symbol for the ae is causing a problem. Is their a fix for that?
You can edit the file itself so that it does go where it's supposed to, see my post #46.

Originally Posted by HtheB View Post
I can't find the music player "BeRO XM Player" in the ApMeFo app list...
So it's in the "root menu" now
You'll need to use command ls (list) so you'll get the programs that you've installed. These are shown as .desktop and should be added to the .menu (programs that are inside the folder). You too should read post #46.

If neither of you can solve your problems from that post then follow instructions on the post #107 at "Making folders and managing icons".

Originally Posted by brokensmile View Post
i installed and activated it but its showing contacts icon 2 times n many more icons two times how to solve it
Use the built-in Diagnosis tool and paste the log to this thread, preferably in code-tag (e.g. [ code ]my paste[ /code ] though without using spacebar, I used it only to tell you how to use the tag), it's the little #-mark on the toolbar.
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nicorumiz is offline nicorumiz
2010-06-26 , 23:26
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#83
Originally Posted by rantom View Post
You can't move application-icons manually without breaking ApMeFo's folders. You'll have to move the Phone to the folder via ApMeFo, since otherwise Hildon comes in and restores the menu to it's regular state.

So in short : don't move icons from menu without ApMeFo, you'll just break the folder, since ApMeFo is not a plug-in to Hildon, it's a separate program to modify it.
That's what I thought.

It is possible to have few icons inside the main menu and after those icons create additional folders doing it with ApMeFo?

I have did it manually by creating folders that's why I was trying to move icons around.
 
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2010-06-26 , 23:41
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Originally Posted by nicorumiz View Post
That's what I thought.

It is possible to have few icons inside the main menu and after those icons create additional folders doing it with ApMeFo?

I have did it manually by creating folders that's why I was trying to move icons around.
Well if I understood you correctly you want to make custom folders to the Application Menu without ApMeFo? Sure, that is possible and that is how I've done, it was mentioned on my previous post. See here:

Post #107 on "Making folders and managing icons".

So in short, there's three different ways to do the folders:

1. Use only ApMeFo.
2. Do it manually.
3. Use ApMeFo and do rest of it manually (for example folders with Scandinavian alphabets ÄÖÅ in them, since ApMeFo does not let you add those, yet).

I've done all my folders manually and most likely will do them in future too, I'll though keep my eye on ApMeFo as well (though I'm hoping that future update would integrate folders to the Application Menu, it'd be much easier for low-end users).
 
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nicorumiz is offline nicorumiz
2010-06-27 , 00:06
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#85
Originally Posted by rantom View Post
Well if I understood you correctly you want to make custom folders to the Application Menu without ApMeFo? Sure, that is possible and that is how I've done, it was mentioned on my previous post. See here:

Post #107 on "Making folders and managing icons".
Yes,

I am managing my icons manually right now. I was changing the program mymenu manually at the beginning and your post was really helpful because nokia replace my phone (I start over since took 1 month and PR1.2 was released).

Here how i have did hildon.menu in order to have few icons and after some folders (maybe can be helpful )

Code:
<!DOCTYPE Menu PUBLIC "-//freedesktop//DTD Menu 1.0//EN"
 "http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu-spec/menu-1.0.dtd">

<Menu>

  <Name>Main</Name>

  <!-- Search only in the hildon directory. -->
  <AppDir>/usr/share/applications/hildon</AppDir>
  <AppDir>/home/user/.local/share/applications/hildon</AppDir>
  <DirectoryDir>/usr/share/applications/hildon</DirectoryDir>
  <DirectoryDir>/home/user/.local/share/applications/hildon</DirectoryDir>

  
   <OnlyUnallocated/>
  <Include>
    <Filename>browser.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>mediaplayer.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>calendar.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>image-viewer.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>osso-addressbook.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>rtcom-call-ui.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>nokia-maps.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>camera-ui.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>modest.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>rtcom-messaging-ui.desktop</Filename>
  </Include>
  
  <MergeDir>submenus</MergeDir>
  
  
   <Layout>
    <Filename>browser.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>mediaplayer.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>calendar.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>image-viewer.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>osso-addressbook.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>rtcom-call-ui.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>nokia-maps.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>camera-ui.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>modest.desktop</Filename>
    <Filename>rtcom-messaging-ui.desktop</Filename>
    <Merge type="all"/>
  </Layout>

  </Menu>
I still have some issue in my menu "More", is showing icons that are already in the main menu, I have to find out what is going on.

Nico
 
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Dr.MZ is offline Dr.MZ
2010-06-27 , 00:41
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#86
I would be happy following functions.

1. In selecting the individual apps that I put in a folder, you should get displayed which are stored in another folder. It appears it does not happen the same app in two different folders.

2. I have the opportunity to decide within the folder itself in what order the apps are listed. Alphabetically, most important, most new or arbitrary. Currently, they are displayed alphabetically but that does not exist forever. Therefore, I would like to have even the possibility.

I also hope that these ideas and other interested they will become converted. Thanks
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Nathraiben is offline Nathraiben
2010-06-27 , 00:47
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#87
Originally Posted by Jaffa View Post
The main way of editing Catorise's menu is to edit /opt/catorise/menu, a simple file with the format:

Code:
desktop-file-name: section
Thanks, that's a bit of information worth my weight in gold!

Would it be okay to (in case I'll implement some way to add auto-categorisation later) read that file and use it's content?

Though right not it's not looking like this would work, anyway. While in theory having both applications installed and freely switching between them should work, I get strange results when ApMeFo is activated: While the custom folders display just fine, some of the applications are duplicated to show both within the folders AND in the main menu.

If not for that problem, I think both applications could be made to work well together - Catorise fetches the right category and ApMeFo uses that information via some basic "auto-categorise uncategorised applications" button functionality.

Thanks. However, the battery drain isn't Catorise specific. It'll affect ApMeFo too. It's a bug in hildon-desktop introduced in PR1.2: #10412.

Well, mine too. I've not seen the bug either. Perhaps it's a specific .desktop file which causes it?

According to a comment on #10412, it's reproducible by updating the local one.
What a shame - would have been really nice if by chance we had found a way to rid all three applications of that bug.
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2010-06-27 , 01:21
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#88
would be nice, plus catoriseGUI is the easy way to move icons
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Nathraiben is offline Nathraiben
2010-06-27 , 01:46
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#89
@nicorumiz: You should really post everything concerning manual customisation to the non application specific thread. Not that I wouldn't want interesting discussion like that on here (actually, feel free to post away as much as you like ), but the real experts are over there, so you're more likely to get your answers over there.

I've been into this topic for a mere two days when I started writing ApMeFo (and into Python - both pretty much shows, I fear ), and while I'm constantly learning more about it so I can add new features, my knowledge about hildon.menu is still rather basic. The real genii are back in the original thread.

@all: I'm trying to sum up all the requests and to post when/whether they are probably going to be implemented. Please post if I happen to forget anything!

Features and Bugs for V1.0
Before adding a lot of new functionality, I'd like to get a stable and usable V1.0 out there. This will include the following requests:
  • The popups for selecting Folders and Applications will be sorted alphabetically.
  • The popup for selecting Applications will allow for multiple selections (this makes the request for getting rid of the OK button impossible, so the button will have to stay in there).
  • When adding/removing Applications, ONLY the part between the Include tags will be modified. That way, it will be possible to manually add applications between Exclude tags without them being touch by ApMeFo.
  • I will try to implement better routines to check whether an application is set to NoDisplay or not (hopefully I only overlooked a small case inconsistency, which would be easy to fix then).
  • If possible, I would like to fetch localised application names. Sadly, I don't have the faintest idea how to do that - would be happy about any hint you could give me!

Post V1.0 features
Once we have a stable release, in relatively small version steps I'd like to implement the rest of the request. Not sure which of them are actually do-able, and with some I'm still unsure on how to best implement them:
  • In the select popup, do not list applications already added to the current folder. Not quite high on my list of priorities, since adding an application twice to the same folder won't do no harm, anyway. But for reasons of clarity it will be fixed eventually.
  • In the select popup, add a button "Show only unallocated applications". Not sure whether this will actually work, because checking every single folder against the list of applications might turn out rather slow. Will give it a try.
  • Add auto-categorisation: Not sure whether this would be a good idea, since most applications are either not marked or put into a totally random folder. If anything, reading Catorise's file would be an option, but that would only work when both applications could run at the same time (see me last post).
  • Rearrange/sort applications: Would love to add this feature, but until I learn how to do this manually I won't be able to include it with ApMeFo.
  • Allow for non-Ascii names of folders (and find no-Ascii names of applications): Sadly, I haven't yet found a way to do that with Python. Will definitely try to get a workaround, though.
  • Add the ability to rename folders: Probably one of the first changes, since this is both easy to do AND a great idea.

Requests I'm not sure about
These are request that where made but I'm not quite sure about. Would be happy about any input on what others think about it.
  • Omitting the filenames of icons in the selection popup. While this would make scrolling less tedious, I'm not sure whether to implement this. Filenames can be quite a good indicator on where you are (for example, once I'm around the icons starting with "F" I know I'll have to expect the filemanager_* icons soon).
  • Make separate buttons for Create and Edit. Would this really be an advantage over the current system? If not I'm not sure whether it would be worthwhile to add a couple of new methods and messages to do so.

Requests that are most probably not going to make it in
Because they are either impossible/dangerous or simply not necessary.
  • While I more than understand those requests, I won't do anything that includes modifying hildon.menu at DOM level. I'm just not prepared to risk messing up other people's devices (bad enough that I already do with a less critical copy&paste modification of the file ). Sadly, this also includes rearranging and sorting folders and applications in the main menu...
  • Backup changes done with ApMeFo: Actually, there's just no need to do that. If you decide to deactivate or uninstall ApMeFo, both the .desktop files and the .menu files will remain, they just won't have any effect on your menu (provided to deleted hildon.menu). Once you reinstall/-activate ApMeFo, you'll have full access to those folder settings again.


Again, if I missed anything, please let me know!

Not sure when I'll be able to start working on V1.0 (couple of medical appointments coming up next week), but I'll keep you up-to-date!
 

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2010-06-27 , 03:50
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#90
Originally Posted by Nathraiben View Post
  • *]Rearrange/sort applications: Would love to add this feature, but until I learn how to do this manually I won't be able to include it with ApMeFo.
I think you can do this by using:
<layout>
<filename>something.desktop</filename>
<filename>somethingelse.desktop</filename>
</layout>

at least that works in the main hildon.menu for apps, can't get it to work for directories


also l added a "More" directory and moved the </OnlyUnallocated> statement there. (all new apps then go there instead of the main menu, like the pre PR1.2 menu. Then I added nodisplay=true to my more.directory file. I won't see new apps listed until I add them to a folder, but I find it much harder to trigger the submenu bug. Perhaps it gets caught scanning/re-scanning for unallocated apps? That was one of the differences between the stock hildon.menu and the new hildon.menu (either ApMeFo or by hand).
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