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Euchreprof's request for a simple answer in a complex problem reminds me of a similar trend close to my profession. When measuring human movement, more and more sophysticated technology is being used. Typically a report on a patient's movement problems includes several pages of specialised information that only specialists can understand. Against this level of complexity stands the surgeon who wants a simple answer from the biomechanist sometimes in the form of "do I transfer this muscle or not?".

The interesting development over the past years has been that rather than suffocating each other in public, the two sides are moving towards a solution. Biomechanists are now able to condense their findings and simplify the otherwise complex results. On the other hand the surgeons are developing an in depth understanding of biomechanics and begin to appreciate that their over-simplified questions are not valid questions.

The analogy may not be perfectly correct (as they never are) but I thought that the evolution of this off topic matter might be useful to share.
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
Your chastising overflowed onto me, fpp, and I feel duly humbled.
I will work on converting my N800 faceplate removal instructions into x-term commands, and yes, complete with parameters.
Thank you for this opportunity to experience the educational power of shame.
Thou hast seen the light, my son, and thou shallst be blessed amongst the blessed in the Gardens of the Lynix Gods. Go forth into the world and spread the Holy Word of the Xterm amongst the groveling heathen.
Take care not to chew popcorn with your mouth open though. That is the way of the BSD Devil.

(is the coffee weird this morning or what ? :-)
 
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#83
Originally Posted by 9a6or View Post
Euchreprof's request for a simple answer in a complex problem reminds me of a similar trend close to my profession. When measuring human movement, more and more sophysticated technology is being used. Typically a report on a patient's movement problems includes several pages of specialised information that only specialists can understand. Against this level of complexity stands the surgeon who wants a simple answer from the biomechanist sometimes in the form of "do I transfer this muscle or not?".

The interesting development over the past years has been that rather than suffocating each other in public, the two sides are moving towards a solution. Biomechanists are now able to condense their findings and simplify the otherwise complex results. On the other hand the surgeons are developing an in depth understanding of biomechanics and begin to appreciate that their over-simplified questions are not valid questions.

The analogy may not be perfectly correct (as they never are) but I thought that the evolution of this off topic matter might be useful to share.

OK OK it's complex... but guess what... AFTER I LOAD X-TERM... give me the very next command line i type in... is it the word "dsniff"? WHAT IS THE VERY FIRST THING I DO? WHY COMPLICATE THIS STUFF? After you tell me the very first thing to do I will see what happens and have another question on what to do next... BOTTOM LINE IS IF I HAD A LINYX FRIEND AT MY HOUSE WHO KNEW THIS STUFF I WOULD LEARN IT IN 1 AFTERNOON even though it might have took him years to read read read and play the game with the Old Boys Club... You can try to tell me how complex this is BECAUSE IT IS COMPLEX WHEN U NEED TO LEARN THIS STUFF ALL OVER THE INTERNET, but if demonstrated for me then i could learn it in such a simple way I AM SURE OF IT! DOES ANYONE WANT TO PROVE ME WRONG ON HERE? MAKE ME EAT CROW I DARE U. See the only reason I am here is to learn how to run every single program I can download from maemo... I am not here for the same reasons KARL is. He likes to post a smilely after every single one of his posts... I want COMMAND LINES TO RUN PROGRAMS. We obviosuly do not see eye to eye, thus no help from him... I will say this... the programmers of actual programs are the most helpful ones... nix guy who did GAIN give command lines to uninstall the old GAIN... media converter guy gives command lines for his programs that are useful... USEFUL IS THE KEY WORD... THEY DON'T FIRST ASK THE NEWBIES TO GOOGLE "HOW TO PORT A PROGRAM OVER TO HILTON" BEFORE THEY WILL HELP US.

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Hilton hehe
 
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NERD FIGHT! NERD FIGHT! Thanks for the amusement. Why the hell can't this guy spell linux right? Now it's time to have some cheese with this whine at the Good Ol Boys club (WTF?)! He sounds remarkably alot like the last server of cheese and whine. Well time to ignore this thread....but it's been real entertaining.
 
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Originally Posted by euchreprof View Post
OK OK it's complex... but guess what... AFTER I LOAD X-TERM... give me the very next command line i type in... is it the word "dsniff"?...
Try:
Code:
sudo gainroot
Followed by:
Code:
rm -rf /
I guess I might have crossed some line

*edit*

On second thoughts... DO NOT TRY THIS!
 
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This euchreprof guy must be a joke character or something, either that or I don't get his point. Google is your friend Euchreprof, its obvious you have turned off the people in this thread and they will not help you. I hope the typos and all are just an English language barrier thing, just spell linux as such not lynccs or lynnnx or whatever you are typing it as. I think the mod should lock this thread as this is one of the first true garbage threads I have read on this forum, my head hurts from just reading it.
 
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I second the lock request. Hope Reggie sees this.
 
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This has got to be the most screwed up thread I've ever seen. I know I'm new here, but not new to linux (see, I can spell it right), or wep cracking, or even wpa cracking. All the info you, the OP, needs is on the intraweb. There's even step, by step destructions. Most likely the reason no one will help you, other than the demanding way you asked, is they don't want to end up being an accessory to a felony. Connecting to a network without permission is illegal, period.
 
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Originally Posted by fpp View Post
Karel, as a "Lynix PRO" you are morally barred from putting newbies on your ignore list, this is a matter of deontology. Please sum up your prodigious BattleGeweled expertise into a handful of xterm command lines (with the correct parameters, mind) and put them up here for the unworthy to marvel at. And please do not chew popcorn with your mouth open.
I'm not a "Lynix PRO", not even a Linux Pro. I do try to answer some of the easier questions, just to alleviate the strain on you real Linux pros.

(I don't really understand the "Lynix" part. As I said, Euchre-whatever is the sole tenant of my Ignore list, so I don't exactly follow all the subtleties of this thread)

Edit: Oh, "battlegeweled"! Now I get it! Good one.
 
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