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#81
Originally Posted by tissot View Post
More doesn't hurt
Actually, more does hurt... more memory means more memory cells that need to be refreshed every few seconds, meaning more battery power is sapped just keeping the memory active and returning correct results. Double the memory and you double the battery sapping power requirement. 512MB would be great as 256MB is probably insufficient for Maemo/MeeGo but 1GB could become a problem and negate any power improvements from an AMOLED display or 45nm CPU.
 
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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
I did not see TI making 1GB DRAM OMAP3s, so demanding it won't make it happen.
Of course you didn't, because it's a PoP (Package-on-Package), not a single piece of silicon. :P

But your point remains. It's a function of the availability and cost of higher capacity PoPs that will decide this one.
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Misght have missed it or its not mentioned - but does the N9 specs include a FM transmitter - such that I can play songs throught the car stereo using the FM channel - like on the N900 ?
That has made my daily drives bearable on my old car without any input jacks.

THAT is one feature I would not like to lose - apart from the Communications plugin type integration that Maemo has.
 
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Originally Posted by nilchak View Post
Misght have missed it or its not mentioned - but does the N9 specs include a FM transmitter - such that I can play songs throught the car stereo using the FM channel - like on the N900 ?
That has made my daily drives bearable on my old car without any input jacks.

THAT is one feature I would not like to lose - apart from the Communications plugin type integration that Maemo has.
Just to be clear, there are no specs right now - everyone is making it up at this point! No mention of FM transmitters so far though, but that really doesn't mean much.
 
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Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
Actually, more does hurt... more memory means more memory cells that need to be refreshed every few seconds, meaning more battery power is sapped just keeping the memory active and returning correct results. Double the memory and you double the battery sapping power requirement. 512MB would be great as 256MB is probably insufficient for Maemo/MeeGo but 1GB could become a problem and negate any power improvements from an AMOLED display or 45nm CPU.

Are we complaining that there is too much? I'll rather have 1GB+ RAM and less battery life anyday of the week. From 512MB to 1GB, you would be talking about near negligeable increase in battery usage anyways. Biggest battery user isn't RAM by any means. It would probably use more battery if it needs to access the slower flash as a swap and do things slower coz of it. You can easily replace a battery when it goes flat anyways. You can't with RAM.

With my N900, I constantly feel the need for more RAM (and CPU) even during multitasking few MicroB's while playing music/videos etc for example. Give us more hardware and considering the nature of the OS and the people who use it, I'm SURE we'll be making full use of the extra RAM.
 
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Originally Posted by jakiman View Post
With my N900, I constantly feel the need for more RAM (and CPU) even during multitasking few MicroB's while playing music/videos etc for example. Give us more hardware and considering the nature of the OS and the people who use it, I'm SURE we'll be making full use of the extra RAM.
Yes, the N900 only has 256MB... so would doubling it to 512MB help much? Absolutely, but would quadrupling it to 1GB give you significantly more benefit than you would get with 512MB? Highly doubtful.

1GB would be nice, but it comes with drawbacks, and when the battery capacity is already likely to be marginal it doesn't seem sensible to take more out of the battery for what may turn out to be negligible benefit. Remember you'll always have bags of swap available for when you need it, which won't be nearly as often with 512MB than it was with 256MB.
 
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I saw a video of the rumoured as N9, a supposed ad, a sticker like those on the back of phones. Everything looked too symbianish to me. I hope I am wrong but I wont be surprised if it's S^4
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Originally Posted by qwazix View Post
I saw a video of the rumoured as N9, a supposed ad, a sticker like those on the back of phones. Everything looked too symbianish to me. I hope I am wrong but I wont be surprised if it's S^4
It won't and can't be S^4. As stated by Nokia, N8 is the last phone in the NSeries to use Symbian. All others will have Meego. The only way that can be possible is if that phone turns out to not be a NSeries, but I highly doubt that.

Just a few more weeks till Nokia World. Where, hopefully, Nokia will unveil MeeGo and the N9
 
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Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
Yes, the N900 only has 256MB... so would doubling it to 512MB help much? Absolutely, but would quadrupling it to 1GB give you significantly more benefit than you would get with 512MB? Highly doubtful.
Sure you would. Not once have I run into a downside to having more RAM.

1GB would be nice, but it comes with drawbacks, and when the battery capacity is already likely to be marginal it doesn't seem sensible to take more out of the battery for what may turn out to be negligible benefit. Remember you'll always have bags of swap available for when you need it, which won't be nearly as often with 512MB than it was with 256MB.
If you can avoid using swap by throwing more RAM in, then by all means do it. Swap is achingly slow even on NAND. And 1GB of RAM likely uses barely more power than 512MB depending on how it's set up (or it can use 2x, and be completely outweighed in usage by the display and wifi/3G radios.)
 
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Originally Posted by inkjected View Post
It won't and can't be S^4. As stated by Nokia, N8 is the last phone in the NSeries to use Symbian. All others will have Meego. The only way that can be possible is if that phone turns out to not be a NSeries, but I highly doubt that.

Just a few more weeks till Nokia World. Where, hopefully, Nokia will unveil MeeGo and the N9
I think the Nokia exec then came forward and said it would be the last N series phone to run symbian S3. So it seems that there will be N series phones using symbian 4. Or it seems Nokia is just confused.
 
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