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CodeNote is offline CodeNote
2010-09-14 , 06:00
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#81
For those who experience severe excruciating pain when reading text that is not in the most perfect Queens English language and always moans about it, then b0ll0x to you.... English is not my first language.
however, thank you all who took time to write some positive text here.
im happy to see (like myself) many of you guys will actually keep
and continue to use your nokia and the fact that some of you are you are looking for another same device for backup purposes really have me amazed.

this alone will help confirm my fears towards the future as i dont
want to invest lots of time and energy into a product that will fade away in the midst in a quick step fashion.

it is inevitable that at some point all bought electronics products
will cross that line from being useful to dead but if the n900 has
life kicking for the next few years and beyond then my time and energy is worth while.

thank you again for being positive. your text has helped me alot
to arrive at a good conclusion for the n900.

CN
 
attila77 is offline attila77
2010-09-14 , 06:12
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#82
Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
Yep, official support is short, but with a successor on the rise (Harmattan) this was, in my case, expected.

I wonder what will happen if a corporation gets sued for such. For example, not providing security and reliability fixes is probably neglecting the 'proper functionality' which is an aspect of warranty under EU law. Does anyone have jurisprudence concerning this?
IANAL, but I would say is handled under warranty (thus on a case by case basis and would be valid only if an advertised feature would be broken or missing), which is different than upgrade-upgrade-upgrade support people are missing (even though bugtracker activity suggests that it, in fact, hasn't completely stopped), both of which are a different thing from what is speculated by the OP, the N900 stopping being sold in a particular country
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2010-09-14 , 06:44
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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
Qt's root were primarily commercial and has just recently been pushed into the community arena with GPL licensing.
Nitpick: Qt has been available under GPL for over 5 years already, 8 if we don't count the win32 version (which is irrelevant in this context anyway). The recent licence change (adding LGPL) just allows closed-source apps without buying a commercial licence.
 
Mr_Ryde is offline Mr_Ryde
2010-09-14 , 07:11
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#84
Originally Posted by CodeNote View Post

well i know this for a fact i wont be buying an
other Nokia phone till its bedded in properly i don't care what the next phone can do... even if it can make breakfast, dinner, and create beer I ain't buying.... Nokia ain't catching me like this again.

so what will you lot do ?
install android ?
continue using the n900?
sell?
or will you run out and get the next Nokia model?
I'm not sure I see the panic.
A stop in support will not mean that the operating system stops working.
You will still be able to use your N900 for all of the things you bought it for.
Some development will continue in the community, although yes, the development of apps will slow down eventually.

Right now though I'm not really sure how many people are worried about any of the above . They are either deep into the technology and writing code or they have everything the like on their device and enjoy using it and tweaking it every so often. As said many people will use this device for ages until the hardware fails and then give it up. Your aspirations may differ but that is another matter.
 
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2010-09-14 , 09:14
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#85
To OP - could you rename this thread to include e.g. "(N900 discontinued)" or similar in the title? I keep clicking on it forgetting what it's about!
 

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2010-09-14 , 10:07
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#86
Originally Posted by CodeNote View Post
so what will you lot do ?
install android ?
continue using the n900?
sell?
or will you run out and get the next nokia model?
So what will I do?
I really don't understand the question. I already have the device that can do what I expect from a pocketable device. So why should I be upset?

Originally Posted by theonelaw View Post
And remember the community here is one of a kind.
I couldn't say it better myself.

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Yep. NokiaUSA said they'd give me that $199 price even despite the probs ordering one earlier during that promotion.
Gerbick, I don't believe you are saying that you are getting one! Has someone hacked your account or what?
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2010-09-14 , 11:14
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#87
I would argue the N97 was the shortest lived phone as it was very quickly replaced with the N97 mini. My operater removed the N97 after about 4 months, so the N900 at 6 months is a slight improvement. Interesting that both were Nokia. I can't think of an HTC phone that is removed from market as quick.

But as Nokia just lost it's number 2 AND has a new number 1. Who knows what will happen, I can't see them staying as they are and to me it will be in the direction of Win7 or Android and Symbian. Something about the American culture and wanting the sales numbers to compete, not the innovation which takes effort.

Originally Posted by traysh View Post
What? I see no reason for that. In what is N95 better than N900?
At a guess, It works, is stable. It can do picture messages, individual ringtones, battery lasts longer. My sister has one and has had for a year more than I have had this turkey and it still just works. She didn't want a phone to 'hack', she wanted a phone that does what it says. And voila, the N95 is that phone. Make me jealous sometimes because hers rings when people call (mine has given up on that privilage), tells her when she misses a call without apps, she can store music and play it without an indexer killing the OS. All the things that haven't ruined the N900.
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2010-09-14 , 21:03
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#88
Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
Meh. Continued sales are overrated.

Continued and official support though? Different beast altogether.

Good luck on that last one. Mine should be here in a week.

Yep. NokiaUSA said they'd give me that $199 price even despite the probs ordering one earlier during that promotion.
Wow Gerbick, you're getting one??
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2010-09-15 , 00:14
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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
IANAL, but I would say is handled under warranty (thus on a case by case basis and would be valid only if an advertised feature would be broken or missing), which is different than upgrade-upgrade-upgrade support people are missing (even though bugtracker activity suggests that it, in fact, hasn't completely stopped), both of which are a different thing from what is speculated by the OP, the N900 stopping being sold in a particular country
No, what I mean is that the device is advertised with a working browser, Adobe Flash, etc. You'd then expect security and reliability fixes for such software. Many corporations don't provide them quickly (Microsoft, Apple), but it seems Nokia doesn't provide the Firefox and Adobe Flash security patches at all. They simply stop providing firmware updates after a year, and I believe this is not according to EU law because according to this a product should remain functioning for 2 years (and ever afterwards, too). Mind you, I am not asking about new features.
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2010-09-15 , 02:47
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personally, i would buy a WinMo 7 or iPhone 4gs (when it's out). I'll probably change once my N900 dies or annoys me to the point that i might throw out the window. So far, my only concern is the battery drain issue and the typical issues that everyone posted about already.
 
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