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2010-09-22
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt
Notice who makes all the money - the vast bulk of profits in the "PC industry" are made by MS. Whilst hardware increases in capability and plummets in price month after month, the cost of DOS/Windows keeps going up with each bug fix release. HP gets a huge chunk of its profits from selling ink, its printers/imaging division accounts for over 40% of its net profit for 2009. That is why Dell has got into the lucrative ink market by selling its own printers. Whilst hardware has long been commoditised and thus offer little to negative profits, MS through its ruthless interoperability (read, lack of) has managed to avoid commoditising Windows and hence makes as much or more profit than the rest of the PC industry combined.
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2010-09-22
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ok.... now everyone thinks that this is a battle between microsoft and apple in the pc world, and iphone vs android vs symbian in the smartphone world, well it will eventually lead to one thing, full open source is the future of the cyber world .
linux is what will take over the world, not google, not microsoft, and not apple thats for sure, linux will take over the pc world as its growing day by day in the underground, and it will take over the smartphone world with the full open source os maemo/meego .
beleive in open source, its what we do best, and its what will take over the world, long live maemo5/meego .
linux is what will take over the world, not google, not microsoft, and not apple thats for sure, linux will take over the pc world as its growing day by day in the underground, and it will take over the smartphone world with the full open source os maemo/meego .
beleive in open source, its what we do best, and its what will take over the world, long live maemo5/meego .
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2010-09-22
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Must say it is very refreshing to get such good quality discussions going on in TMO. There has been too much white noise recently and I often forget why I come on this forum so often.
For that - thank you all.
For that - thank you all.
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2010-09-22
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#84
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Originally Posted by kureyon
Well said.
Notice who makes all the money - the vast bulk of profits in the "PC industry" are made by MS. Whilst hardware increases in capability and plummets in price month after month, the cost of DOS/Windows keeps going up with each bug fix release. HP gets a huge chunk of its profits from selling ink, its printers/imaging division accounts for over 40% of its net profit for 2009. That is why Dell has got into the lucrative ink market by selling its own printers. Whilst hardware has long been commoditised and thus offer little to negative profits, MS through its ruthless interoperability (read, lack of) has managed to avoid commoditising Windows and hence makes as much or more profit than the rest of the PC industry combined.
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2010-09-22
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Originally Posted by kureyon
Oh come on, if PC hardware wasn't profitable no one would make it until prices rose significantly above break-even point to make it worthwhile.
Whilst hardware has long been commoditised and thus offer little to negative profits
Who benefited from commoditisation (ok, apart from MS)? Answer: you and I (as consumers) did, and more so if we don't run Windows.
Does the same answer apply to mobile devices? I suspect not and the main beneficiaries would be the operators, at least as long as most people insist on getting their devices subsidised and getting tied to one 24-month contract after another because they can't add and think it's cheaper that way :-/
Now, on the OS side there's not going to be a MS this time around. Android has already commoditised the market significantly and Nokia is in the process of doing exactly the same with both Symbian and MeeGo.
Why would they do that? Because the money now is in services (app stores, music stores, ads, LBS etc), and in order for them to be successful there they a) need to be on as many devices as possible (even if they didn't make them), and b) can't let anyone else (eg Google or Apple) corner the market.
Android has no place in that business model (unless you're Google of course). What does, for Nokia, is lots and lots of flashy "Ovi devices" of all flavours designed primarily to make you "consume" "content".
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2010-09-22
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#86
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Originally Posted by danramos
Friendly fire! Hold your fire!!
Your face has a limited capacity between your ears. :P
Lol that comment was by Ossi.
He's using the forum for his anger management therapy again.
What a pennypincher.
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2010-09-22
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Originally Posted by lma
How does the above...
Now, on the OS side there's not going to be a MS this time around. Android has already commoditised the market significantly and Nokia is in the process of doing exactly the same with both Symbian and MeeGo.
Why would they do that? Because the money now is in services (app stores, music stores, ads, LBS etc), and in order for them to be successful there they a) need to be on as many devices as possible (even if they didn't make them), and b) can't let anyone else (eg Google or Apple) corner the market.
Android has no place in that business model (unless you're Google of course). What does, for Nokia, is lots and lots of flashy "Ovi devices" of all flavours designed primarily to make you "consume" "content".
Google does aim for Android to be the "Windows" of the mobile world, as that puts them in a position for providing services equal to MS. MeeGo/Symbian, by virtue of how Nokia is pushing them, cannot. And I suspect that might lead to greater adoption in the end, as OEMs decide to slowly migrate towards providing services of their own instead of only hardware.
The only "flashy Ovi devices" out there will be Nokia's.
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2010-09-22
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Originally Posted by danramos
you have pretty bad spatial sense or then you think badly deformed heads are normal ones.
Your face has a limited capacity between your ears. :P
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2010-09-22
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Originally Posted by ossipena
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your sister's armpits!
you have pretty bad spatial sense or then you think badly deformed heads are normal ones.
...wait, are we having a discussion or a ranking contest? Sorry if I got confused, there.
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