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2010-10-08 , 10:27
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I'm guessing Nokia is struggling to get N9 to the production line and after saw the competitions hardware specs, Nokia hold the N9 back and revise one the current specs and making some adjustment before conclude the final prototype. On the other hand Nokia may be working really hard trying to get the bugs out of Maemo6 OS meeGo to run on their current leaked prototype.

Nokia isn't saying because saying things now will make the competitors attacking them directly with hardware and OSs. Android is currently the strongest competition and iOS is the front of the line of competition. So I'm guessing we would be lucky if Nokia decides to put A9 in the N9 at the production spec. But I think Nokia won't, we all know Nokia too well. Take a look at N95, N96, N85, N82, most N-series got almost identicle hardware specs. So I'm guess the nature of Nokia will adopt A8 processor in N9. Always underpower and always the most expensive. The worst service and the most secretive (releases, updates and warranty).

But Nokia phone got something that attracts most of us. Camera!!
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2010-10-08 , 10:46
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#82
Originally Posted by maxximuscool View Post
I'm guessing Nokia is struggling to get N9 to the production line and after saw the competitions hardware specs, Nokia hold the N9 back and revise one the current specs and making some adjustment before conclude the final prototype.
Really, companies don't go around changing hardware specs just a couple of months before the the device is going into production. And even more so for the friggin' SOC it runs on.

On the other hand Nokia may be working really hard trying to get the bugs out of Maemo6 OS meeGo to run on their current leaked prototype.
Of course they are.

Nokia isn't saying because saying things now will make the competitors attacking them directly with hardware and OSs. Android is currently the strongest competition and iOS is the front of the line of competition. So I'm guessing we would be lucky if Nokia decides to put A9 in the N9 at the production spec.
They said over a year ago that the Harmattan device would run on OMAP3.
 

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2010-10-08 , 11:11
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Really, companies don't go around changing hardware specs just a couple of months before the the device is going into production. And even more so for the friggin' SOC it runs on.
How would you know that they wouldn't? Anything is possible as long there isn't any solid printed specsheet. Did you ever heard that prototype can change from the day that it was made to the day of production? That's why it is called Prototype! things can be changing until finalised and announced.


They said over a year ago that the Harmattan device would run on OMAP3.
Over a year ago!!!!!!! You've said it yourself. 1year ago f Nokia said N9 will be ARM11 would you still saying that N9 still running ARM11 now?
Hardware spec do change from the time it is planned, I personally think that you can't just take the rumour one year ago too seriously. After all Nokia said N9 will be Maemo6 now Maemo6 is becoming MeeGo. It didn't stay as Maemo6, even the OS name can be changed and they said alot of thing about N900 and promises but in the end they dropped the balls.

My point is relying on last year rumour and words isn't the most accurate information. Unless you are working as the N9 engineer then you can't be too certain. My points are just pure speculation, I don't know myself. I did not say I knew about the spec or have an insider or anything.

All we can do is just wait and hope that it is no OMAP3.

if N9 is running OMAP35 then I'm out from the buyer list. OMAP36 also i'm out. OMAP4 then I'll ave something to hype about.
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2010-10-08 , 11:50
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Yes Nokia will delay N9 for 5 months and change the hardware.... sure. Specs have been set to the stone long long time ago. Who knows there might have been couple of different proto units with slightly different hw, but even then the final hw have surely been decided already.
 
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2010-10-08 , 11:59
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Originally Posted by maxximuscool View Post
How would you know that they wouldn't? Anything is possible as long there isn't any solid printed specsheet. Did you ever heard that prototype can change from the day that it was made to the day of production? That's why it is called Prototype! things can be changing until finalised and announced.
Think about it for second. What kind of timescales do you think are involved when you are sourcing millions of pieces of different components from numerous manufacturers, making the hardware design(not just how it looks on the outside), and stabbing the software to make the different pieces of hardware work together as they're supposed to and putting all that together and delivering it to dealers. Enough complexity even without radical last minute hardware changes.

Over a year ago!!!!!!! You've said it yourself. 1year ago f Nokia said N9 will be ARM11 would you still saying that N9 still running ARM11 now?
Well I would've wondered why the heck they'd downgrade from the N900.

Hardware spec do change from the time it is planned, I personally think that you can't just take the rumour one year ago too seriously.
The thing is, it isn't a rumour if it comes from the person responsible for planning the products.

After all Nokia said N9 will be Maemo6 now Maemo6 is becoming MeeGo. It didn't stay as Maemo6, even the OS name can be changed and they said alot of thing about N900 and promises but in the end they dropped the balls.
Yes, it did stay as Maemo 6! The software on the N9 is Maemo 6 renamed as something else for the exact reason that they wouldn't have had time to move to MeeGo core in time to deliver the product when planned!
 

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2010-10-08 , 13:53
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Well, is Intel speaking about Intel-based devices (apparently Meego hasn't yet got a working Modem driver for the Intel Moorestown-based Aava handset, where it does for N900), or all devices?

Since there is no direct quote provided for this statement, it is difficult to tell.

Also, does it mean, no handset using Meego UX (even on top of Maemo platform, e.g. Harmattan), or no handset using Meego base?
 
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2010-10-08 , 15:26
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N9 must be on time and with time I mean this year as they said.

If it is...

It's fine and I'm happy

Otherwise...

They(Nokia) can through this phone out of the window, kick a few from the managment team and focus on the next, first real meego device. Luck for nokia they dont comment. The reason for this is simple. They have no clue of what they are doing!
 
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Also, does it mean, no handset using Meego UX (even on top of Maemo platform, e.g. Harmattan), or no handset using Meego base?
I don't think Harmattan is using the MeeGo(.com) UX. I don't think Harmattan's release date will have anything to do with this announcement from Intel.
 
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Hope that is true. It's a shame that nokia not comment on things like this. I mean what will they lose to release some short press release saying this will not affect the n9. They don't have to give dates or plans away.
Can Quim comment on this issue?
 
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2010-10-08 , 15:45
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Can Quim comment on this issue?
Quim's only comment would be that he can't say anything. His title is Open Source Advocate. Decisions on what to announce when in regards to product releases aren't part of his job. Neither is making any such announcements once they've been approved and prepared.
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