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patlak is offline patlak
2012-02-01 , 03:57
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#81
Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
Sorry you're wrong. In a press release, Steve said Nokia has the royalty of changing Windows Phone's looks and features...something no other OEM is allowed to do.
So why don't they do it then? Bit suspicious don't you think?

Any contribution of Nokia to WP in the near future, will stay under WP and be used by other OEMs (just like Nokia). You think MS is not gonna get Nokia's bells and whistles?

One thing that buzzes me, how much longer will HTC and Samsung produce WP devices?
 
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2012-02-01 , 04:58
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#82
Originally Posted by patlak View Post
Are you aware that the SoC is not the only/main component driving price?
i know for sure, are you think its fair enough the price of single core with 2years old is almost same with newest chipset dualcore??, sorry just asking,
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As someone that should know first hand what has been done to NOT promote and sell the Maemo platform any further, I wonder if Elop in retrospect considers the N9 a success.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/27/meego-n9/
You can't blame the knowledgeable retail sales people either for any success Nokia N9 enjoys.

I used to have such a Zippo lighter saying something like: built your product with integrity and quality and success will follow

Does that old saying still work?

Anyway here are the facts:

-Nokia N9 announcement: N9 will be the last MeeGo phone (at that point did he understand difference between Maemo and MeeGo - if so could be wordplay?)

-Lumia 800 launch: Windows Phone 7 is plan A and plan B, even if these phones are no immediate success (Nokia Netherlands),

-Present day: After abandoning the platform, Nokia is standing on an island watching the sunset on a beach... next to a triple meltdown.

It can act like all is well and the future looks beautiful and full of plans.

But with its DNA forever damaged, illness will follow and if it survives it will live on like a hideous mutant despised by those who ones loved it.

There are Nokia orphans living in a cave somewhere safe.. but are they willing to save the bloodline after being cruelly rejected?
 
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2012-02-01 , 05:22
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#84
Originally Posted by patlak View Post
So why don't they do it then? Bit suspicious don't you think?

Any contribution of Nokia to WP in the near future, will stay under WP and be used by other OEMs (just like Nokia). You think MS is not gonna get Nokia's bells and whistles?

One thing that buzzes me, how much longer will HTC and Samsung produce WP devices?
Yeah, you're quite right.
Well I reackon if they could've, they should've, and here's what they should've done upon launch:

1) Launch Earlier (October 2011)
2) Cheaper (Undercut the iPhone by $150)
3) Differentiating Factor (SwipeUI with the Windows Capacitive keys becoming on-screen)
4) Two versions (small 3.7inch with 1600mAh) and (large 4.7inch with 1800mAh)
5) No software issues (battery drain, gps etc everything working perfectly)
6) Beefier Specs (1.5GHz Snapdragon, 700MB RAM, 64GB NAND)
7) Current Features (LTE, NFC, Carl Zeiss, Gyro, Barometre, GLONASS)
8) Display (WVGA with RGB-AMOLED ClearBlack)

What it got right:
1) Marketing
2) Design
3) Almost faultless

In fact, I reckon they would've quadrupled the amount of sales of N9 they received and at roughly the same cost, which would've saved their Q4 results and put a spin on the company's degradation! (and public image)
 
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#85
Originally Posted by _David_ View Post
Long article by Tomi Ahonen panning Nokia and WP. His intro doesn't really do it justice:
http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...oss-plane.html

Sorry if you've seen it already.
Tomi Ahonen, aka Dr Doom for Nokia.

His first rants were a bit hilarious, these are only sad.

He must be really poor also when looking at the quality of his web pages...
http://www.tomiahonen.com/
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2012-02-01 , 05:45
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Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
Yeah, you're quite right.
Well I reackon if they could've, they should've, and here's what they should've done upon launch:

1) Launch Earlier (October 2011)
2) Cheaper (Undercut the iPhone by $150)
3) Differentiating Factor (SwipeUI with the Windows Capacitive keys becoming on-screen)
4) Two versions (small 3.7inch with 1600mAh) and (large 4.7inch with 1800mAh)
5) No software issues (battery drain, gps etc everything working perfectly)
6) Beefier Specs (1.5GHz Snapdragon, 700MB RAM, 64GB NAND)
7) Current Features (LTE, NFC, Carl Zeiss, Gyro, Barometre, GLONASS)
8) Display (WVGA with RGB-AMOLED ClearBlack)

What it got right:
1) Marketing
2) Design
3) Almost faultless

In fact, I reckon they would've quadrupled the amount of sales of N9 they received and at roughly the same cost, which would've saved their Q4 results and put a spin on the company's degradation! (and public image)
Let me rephrase your logic: "I am a boy, but I could've been a girl!" Going by your logic, Nokia could have been the one launching the GS2, Note, etc and not Samsung. They could've even supported the N9, sell the N950 and made profit. There is a lot of "if," but question is, where is the light shining from?

Elop is in a MS prison shower. Instead of having an open mind, he's having an open butt.
 
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2012-02-01 , 05:48
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#87
Originally Posted by rcolistete View Post
Sorry again for my opinion : Android is a joke. The media allows and praises an OS with so many missing features in 2012 : no real multitasking, no screenshot (before Android 4), no dependencies (oh, it is fine to have 4 Python's installed, which one independent and without common modules...), no privacy (you have to sell your soul to Google), etc.

Ok, Android is better than Windows Phone (well, at least), it is more open than iOS. That's all.

Tablets with Android/iOS are a waste of hardware.
I guess you have no clue about galaxy note? I would prefer another device with maemo, still using my n900 but have several new phones since n900. But the note do most things alot faster than n900.
 
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2012-02-01 , 05:51
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#88
Originally Posted by xRobby View Post
I really don't understand why Nokia doesn't just release windows phones and N9 in different quarters. For example Lumia in Q4, meego in Q2. Would sort out a % of the 'conflicting competition between themselves.
1 word.. MOLE.
 
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2012-02-01 , 06:09
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#89
Somebody in Nokia should write an open letter to Elop and say, "Hey Elop, your WP7 platform is burning!"
 
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2012-02-01 , 06:39
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#90
Originally Posted by lavo View Post
Spot on, although the iPhone still doesn't have NFC or micro SD support (and its sales haven't been damaged because of it ).

I think it was the Windows moniker that was the big killer. No one wants to be associated with it. Let's face it, Windows is not cool. I thought Microsoft would have realised that after the big success Xbox is. They should have created an all new name for it, because its clearly not a business phone (to leverage off the Windows desktop). No Skype yet?? What are they doing??
now imagine if they were to release a xbox branded phone. of course the top folks at redmond won't do that because their reasoning is the xbox audience is smaller than the phone audience.
 
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