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The N9's still-born... Long live the N9... 
Why couldn't it've come out (worldwide, no weird production snags etc) 3mth ago at the very least Nokia!?
For the love of God, what is wrong with you!?
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Why couldn't it've come out (worldwide, no weird production snags etc) 3mth ago at the very least Nokia!?
For the love of God, what is wrong with you!?
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2011-10-08
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Originally Posted by jalyst
Well, nothing... but thanks...
God, what is wrong with you!?
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2011-10-08
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Originally Posted by rentze
wait was this confirmed? well if this is true, paired with lack of gapless playback i can rest well now without the thing.
Can you make video calls? No! That becomes a pretty basic feature nowadays.
at least i can say i was here for almost all of this thread. that seems like a contest worth enough effort to be awarded an N9 for.
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2011-10-08
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Maemo is being resurrected as Mer and backed (seems) by KDE plasma active. I've been reading on meego forum. They had a big meeting on IRC between themselves, a large diversity of business owners, developers and fans on discussing/concentrating on mer as an open source kernel and freedom of slapping your own ui on top.
Microsoft makes more money from Android than they do WP7. And I fully blame Nokia for the destruction of Maemo.
All of this is way over my head of course. Hope I undersood everything right.
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2011-10-08
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Hello people, nobody forces you to buy the thing. I think its a tad too expensive for what it offers, so what? I've got the cash and want something unique.
Btw i had the black one in my hands today, looks really nice, very elegant. Waiting to get my hands on the cyan version.
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Btw i had the black one in my hands today, looks really nice, very elegant. Waiting to get my hands on the cyan version.
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2011-10-09
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Originally Posted by jalyst
At this current rate, you're saying don't put money into Microsoft's pocket.
What about the rest of my post?
But how will you accomplish that? If you buy Android, they get a piece of it. Due to the strategic partnership, you're doing that very same thing (putting money into Microsoft's pocket) via a Nokia N9 purchase. And if you buy WP7, you're still putting money in Microsoft's pocket. Only iOS really is free from that aforementioned cycle of money to Microsoft. Well that and the one I don't consider a personal option - Symbian.
Microsoft didn't kill Maemo/MeeGo. Nokia did. Twice. They let down their internal developers, they let down their teams before Elop got there, they've created a culture of one device, at a time and a limited set of devices given to developers, thus unnecessarily creating a niche when they should have been trying to go the same route as the Trolltech Green Phone (read: make it available to all) or any other widely accepted and even wider developed phone - say, Android for instance.
Nope. They hired a bunch of horrible people that can't sell a damn thing other than remain vague, they remained vague about the path(s) chosen for Maemo, they started/stopped/restarted Maemo per each device, they didn't even keep the same type memory card per iteration! You'd have to have bought a miniSD (770), then standard SD (N800, N810), then microSD (N900) to none (N9). That is not a smart hardware strategy no matter how you slice it.
So why not get a WP7 device? Microsoft will make less money from it.
Pertaining Mexico, after confirming (crap, I need to update that other thread) that EN-US from the user there as well as via w00t here at TMO will not indeed cost extra, the 64gb is still not even showing up in their lists. The standing offer for a 16gb Black still stands, still at the same price. But those dudes are sorta in the dark still by Nokia. They're not happy about that.
And they do not have huge numbers in Mexico, when the interest picked up on it, my friend sorta panicked and has been trying to get the 64gb information as soon as he could.
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Originally Posted by aironeous
Until it's past just booting up and has been deployed on devices that aren't the N900 or the IdeaPad, my interest remains minimal. It's not a nasty swipe at the developers, I wish them the absolute best of luck and await nothing but good news from them - but I'd love to see the MeeGo tablet UI on top of Mer on a Nook Color or something like that before I jump up and down for joy.
Maemo is being resurrected as Mer and backed (seems) by KDE plasma active. I've been reading on meego forum. They had a big meeting on IRC between themselves, a large diversity of business owners, developers and fans on discussing/concentrating on mer as an open source kernel and freedom of slapping your own ui on top.
All of this is way over my head of course. Hope I undersood everything right.
And with popular app support. Gimme the apps that I like, use regularly and hell, I'm there like no other.
But until then, it's like the rest of the Mer/MeeGo/Tizen stuff out there... it's a waiting game.
Until something solid comes out... I'm still going to do more research into other things.
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Originally Posted by jo21
This must be Nokia's "next billion complaints" strategy for "future distruptions (their own)".
everything u complain about its elop fault
yes, n9 is mass market device not sold to a mass market, due elop and microsoft.
now if wasnt for him maybe n950 would be released.
now, windows phone it's certain failure now, it been a year after releases and even bada have better sales.
if nokia isn't as stupid we should they them trying to backtrack, or jumping into android.
backtracking looks painful, now elop practically moved all symbian developers out of nokia, meltemi is a small team, that company doesnt believe in. the trainwreck probably derail in panic in 2012.
elop with the excuse to save cost have turned nokia into microsoft *****.
Originally Posted by oweng
I'm not sure I understand. Which part looks like "swiping"? Every gesture he's doing in there has been in Android for a very long time (about a year for the overt Honeycomb derived gestures in there) except that it looks more fluid and nicer themed. What am I missing?
Nexus Prime... my oh my, my head was just turned...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvsXy...layer_embedded
Looks very similar to 'swiping' doesn't it?
So Nokia make it very difficult to get hold of an N9 in the UK, now the Prime looks very tempting.
Originally Posted by Rugoz
Hello, person, nobody said it was being forced and I'm not buying it. I remain level-headed about these things and I don't buy anything until I can hold it in my hands to see if it's decent to start with... and that rules me out, since I'm in the US. It's still a damned shame that this was mishandled so recklessly on so many levels that it warrants complaints from people who were hoping for an upgrade.
Hello people, nobody forces you to buy the thing. I think its a tad too expensive for what it offers, so what? I've got the cash and want something unique.
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Originally Posted by rentze
Couldn't have said it any better myself. I too have been following this phone for a long time, & i'm nowhere close to a developer. Just interested in a nice clean OS. The only things that have my interest now are the swipe UI, & the multitasking, & now that it's clear that us here in the States will have zero warranty support, makes me second guess my decision.That, & the fact that their "low end" Meltemi devices will have nearly the same specs as the N9. Thus making it nothing more than a mid-low end device for 600+USD. Still on the fence.....
I'm with you. I have been actively following all the hype about the N9... too actively. And what now? We wound up with a pretty outdated hardware, unfinished software and a totally fuzzy distribution and support strategy. Swipe UI is a nice refreshment on the market, and the phone looks really nice and trendy... but that's about it.
What about all the N900 features that make it a dream phone for an average geek? Is there a keyboard? No. Is it at least as open as the N900? No. They even introduced this Aegis thingy to protect the users from themselves. And if the reason for this was to make the phone (and the OS) more appealing to the masses, why don't they at least sell it to the masses?
Then, when it comes to non-geek aspects, what is there besides the great design and Swipe? Can you make video calls? No! That becomes a pretty basic feature nowadays. Does the browser support Flash? No, it does not, although we do know it is there and it works. So it's a management decision. This list would be pretty long if I went on.
And the price? A total rip-off compared to what the competitors can offer.
I really am a geek and support GNU/Linux, FOSS etc. but hey, this is too much. There are too many ifs about this phone and I am not buying it unless a majority (if not all) of them are resolved in our favor. Until then, I prefer to stick to the N900 and/or buy a cheap Android with similar specs and much better support.
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And yes, I forgot... If I ordered the N9 right away, with all the arguments given above, I wouldn't consider myself too different from an Apple fanboy that preorders his new iDevice without even knowing the specs. Actually this is what triggered the alarm in my head.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvsXy...layer_embedded
Looks very similar to 'swiping' doesn't it?
So Nokia make it very difficult to get hold of an N9 in the UK, now the Prime looks very tempting.