Don't be suprised if Nokia does not put any focus on Nokia devices running Meego. They surely will do that but knowing how they like to ditch devices I wont be suprised if they do ditch the next meego device in under a year and that time my 2 year old nephew will be chewing on my N900.

I was pissed off with the N97 and got rid of it in 3 months and went for N900.. super device no doubt still is.. but now the future is looking dim. I don't think I can give Nokia yet another chance.

This is slowly turning into a rant thread

Deservedly so, since Nokia sucks butt in regards to supporting devices. The N900 has been a consumer level failure, hence the drastic drop in price and mainly geek and techies being happy. The N900 as a whole, is an unfinished project.

I will not buy another Nokia device, since I have zero faith in Nokia to support a device platform very well. They are now the Euro version of Samsung.

BTW, the Flash 10.1 fail by Nokia was the closer for me. I now have an overpriced game and media player. Were it not for the cool and appreciated devs at Maemo Talk, the N900 would be a failure at all levels.

"Beer", it's what's for dinner.

If it's about ranting, please focus on the areas where it really is solely Nokia's responsibility. As already said a million times, we wouldn't care less whether Nokia released Flash 10.1 if it would be obtainable from Adobe (like for example in the case of Android).

I think the irony for nokia here is that a competitors OS is looking more of a likely option versus there own, seriously if say in 2 months time we have a new nokia N series phone similar to that of the n900 and at the same time have an excellent working copy of Froyo surely a lot of people will dual boot and in doing so will move over to the android OS? the futur looks bleek for maemo and intrisically meego but not for the N900...

I say this with my fingers crossed of course

It is Nokias responsibility not Adobe's. Why do I say that? I received an email response from Kevin Lynch at Adobe who said that they have already provided Flash 10.1 to Nokia and it's upto Nokia which devices they put it on.

so go figure!

Adobe still needs direct support. The only current version of Flash on Android is Sense based, so only works on HTC devices. Works well on my Incredible and there is also a browser called Skyfire that converts Flash video on the fly and gets past the block some sites do for mobile Flash 10.1. Works very well.

Both Motorola and Samsung are working with Adobe to get Flash 10.1 working on their devices using 2.2 Android.

Edit: I guess this makes Samsung better than Nokia, so I guess Nokia is not really the Euro version of Samsung. Nokia is in a league of their own.... Perhaps Nokia would be better off making hardware and let others handle the software? Like HTC does.


"Beer", it's what's for dinner.

I agree with this part. I'm interested in Meego, but I'm not going buy into it unless it's another manufacturer besides Nokia.

Is there anyone in this community who can either speak for Nokia, or who has a direct line to those who make decisions at Nokia? The general lack of news from Nokia is becoming extremely frustrating. For example here is the response I received from Nokia (when I asked about Flash 10.1 and Ovi Maps):

> Hi James,
>
> Thank you for e-mailing the Nokia Care Contact Center.
>
> Based on your concern, the flash player version of the N900 is currently
> 9.0. We do not have any official information on when the update will be
> released. In the meantime, we kindly ask for your patience with regards
> to this matter.
>
> The turn by turn navigation is currently not available on the N900.
> Unfortunately, the current version of Maemo, the software that powers
> the N900, does not support navigation. With Maemo 5 we prioritized
> development of those areas that we felt would be the most important for
> the target audience of this device. This means that Maemo does not yet
> feature support for the full range of services that our other
> Symbian-powered Nseries devices might have. However, naturally, we’ll be
> working to increase support for all Nokia services, including
> navigation, as we go forward with Maemo.
>
>
> I hope the information provided proves useful.
>
> If you have any additional question, please don't hesitate to contact us
> again. To ensure proper handling of your case, kindly continue using
> the current subject line. Thank you very much for your email. Have a
> great day.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Kristel Avis
> Email Specialist
> Nokia Inc.

Nokia is running the risk of pushing customers to Android and Apple by not engaging with us.

And who twisted Adobe's arm to provide it (whatever it was, as he says 'porting kit', not a done Flash 10.1) to Nokia alone and nobody else, not even as a binary blob, alpha, beta or whatever on their Adobe labs ? And it's not like it's just up to Nokia what software we install. We don't have to root, jailbreak and spread via torrent, P2P or any of the sort. He gives it to us and we make it work (or discover it is FUBAR). But no, they just point a finger at Nokia and Nokia, with it's quiet policies, is always a good target to point fingers at, because they rarely bother to confirm or deny anything.

I don't give a damn who Adobe sent their porting kit to as long as it's big-business only. And this is not even about the N900 and Maemo (and that is why I'm mildly agitated when it comes to this issue).

Adobe. Could. Have. Given. It. To. Everybody.

But they didn't and don't want to, either because the Flash player is technically FUBAR, simply not ready, or because their Open Screen project is just a misnomer for Smoke Screen Project and they are no better understanding what open development is than 5 years ago - even when their own fate might be depending on it.

But yeah, blame Nokia. Then you can blame Sammy, Moto or HTC in a year when one of their models ends up an official upgrade short, then someone else the year after... Even if Nokia DID make a Flash 10.1 upgrade for the N900, we would have this SAME conversation for the N9. The fish stinks from the head down, and and the Flash fish is not headed by Nokia.