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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
To add to this, I thought Skype was written in Qt as well?
Yes, the 'normal' (X11 for desktops) Linux UI for Skype is in Qt.

But, have you ever seen that UI on Maemo? Guess not ...

On Maemo, Skype support is in:
-telepathy
-address book
-accounts

The telepathy plugin is pure C++ linked to telepathy-glib. The address book and accounts plugins are obviously specific to osso-addressbook etc.

So, if N900 had had a normal standalone Qt version of skype like on desktop Linux, yes, it should have been minimal work to port.

But, it didn't. It had integrated Skype support, which is totally different.

I haven't looked in detail at what Harmattan ships, but even if it ships telepathy-qt, there would likely be some porting work from telepathy-glib to telepathy-qt. I have no idea whether the APIs/plugins for addressbook and accounts are similar or totally different.
 

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A shop nearby had a black N9 to test. A few thoughts.

The design is pure in person, it's truely a beautiful phone. There were two details that just didn't fit: Black colour gathers finger prints. I presume lighter colours won't have this problem. Funnily enough I didn't notice any finger prints on the touchscreen itself which is usually quite smudged. Second problem was the usb port's cover, it looked just cheap. I've never had problems with dust so I would prefer just an open port. I presume it also needs to be opened and closed a lot to charge the battery, but it doesn't look like a durable piece. Hopefully Nokia has engineered it so that it is better than what it looks like. Due to the security things attached I didn't get to properly hold it in my hand.

Maybe I've seen one video too many how to swipe away but it just worked. Straight away it felt perfectly natural, no adaptation period. The phone had 20 or 30 programs open and it was still smooth and responsive. The programs that were on were some web browsers, calculator, camera and such but there was also Angry Birds and NFS. Each program loaded up instantly, though I wasn't really looking for lag either. Got a bit too excited there I think Anyhow, the "multitasking" view is truely a gem. Browser seemed fine, tried a few pages and they loaded up promtly. Events view was obviously empty so no comments on that. I would like to see some sort of subheadings that the user could place to the apps view because as of now, it's just a huge grid of icons.

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Originally Posted by marrat View Post
After "Sent to Germany" I had no more updates, post.dk somewhere states on its website that it cannot trace back delivery as soon as they left the country. It was delivered by our normal postman who brings all the letters in the morning (Deutsche Post, no special courier).

It's working good and it's the 64 GB version
he must have sent them all on 7th, as he had several lots and i won mine in the last! he hasn't put anymore up. He must have only bought so many!

I'm gona have to come home at lunch to see if it's arrived! if not i,m gona have to collect!


thanks for your help! enjoy your N9!
 
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Originally Posted by xerxes2 View Post
There is no easy way of porting apps between fremantle and harmattan. Everything have to be rewritten in QML on harmattan so it's just to start all over again. Thankfully this is step 5/5 so from here on it'll be a breeze.
THIS is step 5/5? This is bad comedy.
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
THIS is step 5/5? This is bad comedy.
yep, this is maemo 1.0
whereas we have iOS 5.0, symbian 3.2, android 3.2 ... damn.
 
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Originally Posted by erendorn View Post
yep, this is maemo 1.0
whereas we have iOS 5.0, symbian 3.2, android 3.2 ... damn.
Then why do they keep referring to Harmattan as Maemo 6, and the N900's version as Maemo 5? Damn indeed. Six revisions and they STILL can't solidify simple things like libraries and simplify upgrade paths while iOS apps from years ago are able to still run on iOS 5 and Android apps from 1.5 are able to run with little to no modification on Android 3.2. Step 5 of 5 indeed. It feels like they keep resetting back to step 1 of 5 with every new version.
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
THIS is step 5/5? This is bad comedy.
No it's not a bad comedy it's true. From now on it's QML only on both Meego (only one device but still) and Symbian. The problem is that they replaced OPK with a trojan horse from a well known big corp so the well laid plan (5/5) was suddenly shot to pieces. That is kinda a bad comedy though, sadly.
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Originally Posted by buchanmilne View Post
Yes, the 'normal' (X11 for desktops) Linux UI for Skype is in Qt.

But, have you ever seen that UI on Maemo? Guess not ...
I have. What's your point? I'm not talking about just the UI... but you did address that later...

On Maemo, Skype support is in:
-telepathy
-address book
-accounts
Great. And video got left out... why?

So, if N900...
Oh. You misunderstood. We were talking about the N9. It is a N9-centric

I haven't looked in detail at what Harmattan ships, but even if it ships telepathy-qt, there would likely be some porting work from telepathy-glib to telepathy-qt. I have no idea whether the APIs/plugins for addressbook and accounts are similar or totally different.
And therein lies the problem. I'm not saying that the integration of the past version - which I found top notch over all to be honest on my previously purchased and used N900 (that I used to own, and use) - nor the upcoming version on the N9 is lacking. If you thought so, then you misunderstood what I meant wholly.

So to simplify it a bit, if Qt runs the desktop, which also used a multitude of USB and hardwired (on laptops and monitors) webcams, then why wouldn't they use Qt, C++, or other available libraries to get that working on release day on the N9?

And if it's coming, like the N900 finally got webcam usage after release, then it's not announced for some unknown reason. I'd like for it to come out soon and not just for my benefit.

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Originally Posted by xerxes2 View Post
No it's not a bad comedy it's true. From now on it's QML only on both Meego (only one device but still) and Symbian.
Still waiting for Qt Components to merge across the two platforms. :/ It baffles me why they ever thought it would be a good idea to have separate components. Completely unnecessary fragmentation that undermines the whole 'code once, deploy everywhere' mantra.
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Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
So to simplify it a bit, if Qt runs the desktop, which also used a multitude of USB and hardwired (on laptops and monitors) webcams, then why wouldn't they use Qt, C++, or other available libraries to get that working on release day on the N9?
Maybe these webcams come with commercial grade drivers, and the front facing camera of the N9 does not?
 
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