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Originally Posted by Audrius
can you reply on here if yours turns up? seeing as we both live close! if yours turns up it almost garantees mine will
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2011-10-11
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Originally Posted by Grazy
I'm hoping the postman will come before 11am , because then i have to leave
can you reply on here if yours turns up? seeing as we both live close! if yours turns up it almost garantees mine will
Edit: just arrived !!!!
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2011-10-11
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Originally Posted by ste-phan
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So you can safely recommend the non Harmattan version of the N9 concept to any colleague interested in the beautiful thing you are holding so close yet out of reach.
....minus Swipe
lol*runs*
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2011-10-11
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I don't think that they will eventually have the Swipe interface as such in Windows Phone. Maybe ideas of it, but not the whole thing.
With the Meltemi stuff (next billion) however, it is said to have Qt + Swipe on Nokia's low-end phones in the future. This is the reason why I stopped seeing the N9 as the last MeeGo phone, but see it as the first "next billion" phone, and I am propagating it this way to people now.
Edit: I wrote my first ever blog post on that topic, let's see how much more are to come...
http://nokiathoughts.blogspot.com/20...9s-market.html
With the Meltemi stuff (next billion) however, it is said to have Qt + Swipe on Nokia's low-end phones in the future. This is the reason why I stopped seeing the N9 as the last MeeGo phone, but see it as the first "next billion" phone, and I am propagating it this way to people now.
Edit: I wrote my first ever blog post on that topic, let's see how much more are to come...
http://nokiathoughts.blogspot.com/20...9s-market.html
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2011-10-11
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Originally Posted by ste-phan
I seem to recall you having a very different postion not so long ago in this thread.
Great!!!
Well then you have good news to bring to your colleagues, interested in what they have been demonstrated.
http://www.windowsfordevices.com/c/a...Nokia-Sea-Ray/
The beautiful industrial design as well as the user xperience (the swype interface) will "live on" in the upcoming WP7 phones and will be part of an immense "eco-system" that would make Darwin turn over in his grave, powered by the world's most successful commercial operating system maker and its mobile division, Nokia, formerly known as the largest independent mobile phone maker.
Millions of "apps" to come.
Safely postpone the iPhone 4S purchase next month http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011...-24-Hours.html , the glory will come to the patient (very patient) waiting for the next big thing from MS to overcool them iSheep.
Also, rumour goes, that as the EU comission has also agreed on the Skype purchase by Microsoft, the Skype WP7 version deeply integrated in WP7 phones and WP8 phones will come with VIDEO chatin contrast tot the N9.
Also it will come with a real hardware camera button, later most likely with even a keyboard.
So you can safely recommend the non Harmattan version of the N9 concept to any colleague interested in the beautiful thing you are holding so close yet out of reach.
The conversion is complete hey, everyone else are iTrolls or Android fails
Reads like an ad... little substance...
Do you honestly think Nokia's going make an entire SwipeUX-like interface for WP?
Unlikely to happen, for a bunch for boring reasons that've been outlined countless times.
You do realise we're at 7.5, & Skype video chat is not native for this release?
There's an API so handset vendors can add support for various vid-chat clients if they choose.
And there's a Skype video chat "app" about to be released...
But Skype is not deeply integrated into the OS, not in the same way Skype (non-video) is in Harmattan.
It probably will be by the time WP comes around in approx. 9mth.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/27/w...-mango-review/
http://www.winrumors.com/european-un...ts-skype-deal/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Phone_7.5
One of the buttons on the N9 will be repurposed as a camera button eventually.
So where are these Mango smartphones with qwerty's? (not that I personally care about qwerty's)
What are you ranting on about anyway? I can understand US/UK folks doing so.
But it's in your country now, so why not try-it-out before claiming it's a "steaming pile".
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2011-10-11
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Originally Posted by jalyst
It is not about my personal opinion about the N9, it is about how to show the N9 off and if you could recommend it to the masses.
I seem to recall you having a very different postion not so long ago in this thread.
The conversion is complete hey, everyone else are iTrolls or Android fails
Reads like an ad... little substance...
Do you honestly think Nokia's going make an entire SwipeUX-like interface for WP?
Unlikely to happen, for a bunch for boring reasons that have already been outlined.
You do realise we're at 7.5 & Skype video chat is not supported for this release.
There is an API dev's can take advtange of so various handset vendors can have support.
But it's not a feature natively built into the OS.
It probably will be by the time WP comes round in approx. 9mth.
Even non-video Skype is not yet "deeply integrated"...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/27/w...-mango-review/
We all know the N900 is too nice to be truly existing but even so hard to recommend to your average colleague or neighbour even if an N900 demo given by capable hands could blow them away.
They would be back at you complaining about missed call or an iPhone user looking down on the resistive screen.
N9 might be better to recommend but if its downloading apps and the cool looks they are after? mmm
Thanks for the insight in Skype.
I take the liberty to use marketing terms freely such as Skype integration http://about.skype.com/2009/02/skype...er_to_int.html
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2011-10-11
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corrected my previous post, there was some inaccuracies.
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Originally Posted by erendorn
There ya go--you're STARTING to get it. As for readily flashable--let's not forget what I just finished pointing out in that message--Samsung, Motorola, HTC and surprisingly even SONY are actively helping people by providing the means to root and flash their own devices. So.. yah. While Android is moving in the direction of more and more open and willing to work with their communities and the Android community at large--Nokia is clearly and inarguably, swiftly and steadily moving in the opposite direction.
Hum... N9 is readily flashable with your own entirely DRM free kernel, for which nokia provides redistributable compiled drivers, and a bunch of devices (n950 and now n9) have been distributed to the community devs...
I'm not really sure what you are trying to say here
Unless you're saying that Maemo's openness has become closer to android's level (or the other way around), which is arguably true.
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Nokia's slogan shouldn't be the pedo-palmgrabbing image with the slogan, "Connecting People"... It should be one hand open pleadingly with another hand giving the middle finger and the more apt slogan, "Potential Unrealized." --DR
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I've done some more N9 web browser benchmarks now. (Fennec also)
http://shootspeak.com/2011/10/09/nok...-test-roundup/
You can compare the sunspider benchmark results with other phones here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/i...pu-than-ipad-2
Seems N9's default web browser isn't that great at all.
It scores less in html5test and is slower than Fennec.
Can we get MicroB on to N9? =P
http://shootspeak.com/2011/10/09/nok...-test-roundup/
You can compare the sunspider benchmark results with other phones here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4951/i...pu-than-ipad-2
Seems N9's default web browser isn't that great at all.
It scores less in html5test and is slower than Fennec.
Can we get MicroB on to N9? =P
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Originally Posted by danramos
LOL I dunno mate, I prefer to take a "wait & see" approach.
Well, how is it a reason? We DO know that the version for the N900, which was apparently working fine and ran in Maemo 5, no longer has several particularly attractive and important features that no longer exist in Maemo 6. Why would they be able to port an application from Maemo 5 in part but still missing simple things like video and voicemail functions? Did they have to rewrite it from scratch? Given the diving interest in Nokia all-around, I don't see how ANYTHING solidifies any indication of video coming in a future version, not that there's any indication that there won't--but therein lies the issue: Why is there even a factor of uncertainty? blah,blah,blah
I don't think you can say with any authority what "will" happen.
I didn't assert it--I'm asking why they don't appear to be easily porting over. It was a question. SOME easily ported isn't the same as being GENERALLY easy to port. I'm talking about libraries and API calls, not even binary compatibility. You would THINK that that WOULD be important on a POSIX based system, wouldn't you?
I was addressing backwards compatibility.
I was just pointing to some examples.
I'm not saying "it's all dandy"...
But you suggested it was non-existent.
For the Pentile matrix displays? Yeah--look back a few posts.. I just finished mentioning some. Here, I'll quote my post for you:
I thought I'd summed it up pretty well, but If you really wanted to you could, say, SEARCH for said complaints if you're really interested.
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