Originally Posted by gsalone

So I am the only one who needs to pay 146 Euros to Customs, otherwise no Jolla C... Greek Customs suck!

Originally Posted by Bundyo

Nope, I'm currently trying to avoid 30 EUR VAT, as TNT Bulgaria insists that I've payed not VAT but instead "some tax", since Jolla didn't mark the tax as VAT on their page and in the PayPal transaction. Not that the tax can be anything else when it is marked as "Bulgaria (20%)"...

Originally Posted by pichlo

It just highlights what some of us have been saying since day one. The decision to include Android support at all in the first place was short-sighted, only bound to cause unspeakable problems in the long run.

Originally Posted by gsalone

So I am the only one who needs to pay 146 Euros to Customs, otherwise no Jolla C... Greek Customs suck!

Originally Posted by Boxeri

I disagree. I put Jolla on the hands of my brother and also on the hands of my better half. Which was a big risk that I dared to only live with couple of weeks, since her style of solving technical problems is to slam the device somewhere hard and curse it aloud

Both of them strugled creatly with Sailfish. Not because of using it or too difficult learning curve, but because of lack of apps. Neither of them are app crazy, they only use 2 to 5 apps regularly and no gaming. My brother is somewhat average with computer skills and my GF is below, I think. Both of them are quite bright minds. I thought this to be nice test for Sailfish and it was. Both really liked the UX and design of the os. Especially my brother.

But basically everyday they would call me how to do that, or how to manage this.

"I used to have an app on my phone that would show all the restaurants in my location with one click" or "I used to have app that shows local movie theathers and their shows" or "How can I use this phone in the gym with my excersice"

I gave up and installed google play for them. Basically all the problems went away. My brother only abonded Jolla because of poor camera. And I took the phone away from my girl since all her phones are destined to break from outside impacts and didn't want that to happen my Jolla.

I think that they are what great majority of phone users are. Dont know whether they are 70, 80 or 90 percent of people, but they are the great majority anyways. They are not bound to specifig brand, os or identity/privacy concerns.

"Google can automatically upload all my contacts and pictures. When I change phones I get them all automatically to my new phone, no matter the make. How cool is that?!?!?"

And that is the road to which we are going. Despite that the minority who care about these kind of things is getting louder and louder, the customer feedback data is clear. Customer wants the company to know him/her.They don't mind giving their information to a company that will in exchange supply them with "infinite" amount of life easing applications.

And to conlude this already too long allure, adding Android support was thus probably the smartest thing that Jolla has done so far IMO. If they ever are going to make money with their business it is probably the only way they are able to raise enough customers. Truth is that the money of the masses is not laying with likes of this forum for example. And sincerely not wanting to offend anyone with that! Money that companies need are with the likes of my little brother who sees cool phone that his friend has, asks whether it has this and that app, and then tomorrow goes to buy it whether it costs 200€ or 800€.


Ohh, and that phone he changed Jolla into. So cool! Has like thirteenbillion megapixels and can change profile based on whether it is connected to his home WiFi I smiled a bit when he told me this and had huge grin inside

Originally Posted by mosen

Look how many new indian AquaFish users hit TJC and TMO.
Would not have happend without Jolla having nicely running Dalvik to convince intex imho.

Originally Posted by Boxeri

"I used to have an app on my phone that would show all the restaurants in my location with one click"

Originally Posted by Feathers McGraw

I think your post was very perceptive and agree with your conclusions, but just wanted to point out that Poor Maps can do this via Foursquare...apart from the one click thing

Originally Posted by nieldk

Personally, I would prefer the money spend on the Alien Dalvik license crap to have had better HW on J1.