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2013-12-03 , 17:25
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#941
@shmerl
Yep it is, but on the N9 it wasn't synched with the app orientation and it was confusing.

So, better definition: swipe from the top of the application

(not vertically, i.e. perpendicularly to the sea level)

Another way to say it is lock the swipe orientation also if the app is locked
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2013-12-03 , 17:28
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#942
Originally Posted by kinggo View Post
OK, since all apps (native and android) in harbour are at the same place is there any filter for that. Or maybe, If one doesn't install ACL, is there a chance that he doesn't even see android apps.
That place seems to be geared only for submitting, is there section for browsing what's actually there yet? (n.b. I'm using desktop browser -Firefox- not a jolla phone)
 
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2013-12-03 , 17:46
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Originally Posted by javispedro View Post
The fact that some idiots decided to implement a new layer on top of this one that for some weird reason forces developers to manually implement checkpointing (aka saving and restoring state) into each and every small application is something I cannot understand.
Well, it seems to have worked out quite well for them. Maybe it would be better for you too if you'd try to wrap your head around it, it makes a lot of sense if you think about it.
 
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2013-12-03 , 17:46
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#944
Originally Posted by qwazix View Post
@shmerl
Yep it is, but on the N9 it wasn't synched with the app orientation and it was confusing.

So, better definition: swipe from the top of the application

(not vertically, i.e. perpendicularly to the sea level)

Another way to say it is lock the swipe orientation also if the app is locked
Yes, this makes a bit more sense (gestures relative to the orientation of the application). It's somewhat consistent. However it still seems a bit weird that gestures would change relative to the user, depending on the applications being locked or rotatable. In Harmattan (hacked one, where rotation of the screen was enabled), it was consistent relative to the user's view (top, bottom, left, right etc.). It seems to be more stable relative perspective, so I'm not really sure what's more confusing this, or the above.

Originally Posted by herpderp View Post
Well, it seems to have worked out quite well for them. Maybe it would be better for you too if you'd try to wrap your head around it, it makes a lot of sense if you think about it.
Worked quite well? Android never worked quite well when it comes to efficiency and multitasking. It's IMHO broken by design.
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2013-12-03 , 17:49
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Originally Posted by mariusmssj View Post
Yes >>here<<
On the bottom picture next to screw 13 is probably metal leaf switch at the hole which will sense if the other half is installed and in place. If anyone have problems that the other half is not recognized it might be that the switch is not taking contact from the other half.
 

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2013-12-03 , 18:08
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#946
Originally Posted by kinggo View Post
OK, since all apps (native and android) in harbour are at the same place is there any filter for that. Or maybe, If one doesn't install ACL, is there a chance that he doesn't even see android apps.
Jolla harbour only hold sailfish apps. You want Android apps you go to an Android store. The only Android related item in the Harbour store is the Android compatibility app.
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2013-12-03 , 18:12
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Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
I have completed my two day long battery testing with Location ON and OFF.

Conditions:
- Screen brightness: manual, minimum brightness
- Screen goes off in 15 seconds
- Developer Mode Enabled
  • Remote connection (SSH) enabled
- Installed apps:
  • Tutorial
  • Calculator
  • Calendar
  • Clock
  • Notes
  • Mail
  • Media
  • Maps
  • Documents
  • IP Address
  • Speedtest.net (Android)
  • The Weather Channel (Android)
  • Yandex.store (Android)
  • Amazon Appstore (Android)
  • Mobogenie (Android)
  • Firefox (Android)
  • Dropbox (Android)
  • Whatsapp (Android)
  • Viber (Android)
  • Skype (Android)
  • Angry Birds Star Wars II (Android)
  • Daylight World Map (Android)
  • Terminal
  • Sovjet Military Maps Free
- No apps running on background
- No apps running on foreground
- Messaging settings:
  • GMail configured, checking mail every 30 minutes
  • 1 IMAP mailbox configured, checking mail every 30 minutes
  • 1 Twitter account configured
- Network
  • Cellular: 3G, no data connection in use
  • WiFi: connected to 802.11n network, 52-65 Mbps rate
- Location ON

Saturday November 30, 2013:
[time elapsed] [time of day] [battery level] [comments]
-0:01 13:24 battery 100 %, settings -> location -> ON, USB cable still plugged, GPS icon blinking
0:00 13:25 battery 100 %, test will start, unplugging USB cable
0:05 13:30 battery 100 %
0:18 13:43 battery 98 %
1:16 14:41 battery 91 %, GPS icon steady and not blinking anymore
3:29 16:54 battery 74 %
3:44 17:09 battery 72 %
4:34 17:59 battery 66 %
5:11 18:36 battery 61 %
6:26 19:51 battery 51 %
7:06 20:31 battery 46 %
7:48 21:13 battery 41 %
8:29 21:54 battery 36 %
8:38 22:03 battery 35 %
9:05 22:30 battery 31 %
9:19 22:44 battery 29 %, battery test ends

13:07 Projected battery charge level 0 %

Conditions changed
- Location OFF

-0:02 12:46 battery 100 %, Location -> OFF, USB cable still plugged, GPS icon not visible
0:00 12:48 battery 100 %, test will start, unplugging USB cable
0:41 13:29 battery 97 %
1:02 13:50 battery 96 %
1:46 14:34 battery 92 %
2:29 15:17 battery 89 %
2:44 15:32 battery 89 %
3:02 15:50 battery 87 %, poor response to double tapping. need to tap multiple times before response.
3:30 16:18 battery 85 %, clock does not stay in correct time
3:34 16:22 battery 84 %
4:13 17:01 battery 81 %
4:33 17:21 battery 80 %
5:04 17:52 battery 78 %
5:35 18:23 battery 75 %
5:53 18:41 battery 74 %
6:26 19:14 battery 71 %
7:39 20:27 battery 66 %
7:44 20:32 battery 66 %
8:44 21:32 battery 61 %
8:54 21:42 battery 60 %
9:55 22:43 battery 55 %
10:35 23:23 battery 52 %
10:50 23:38 battery 50 %

21:40 Projected battery charge level 0 %

Definitely something wrong with power management and with Location ON the GPS/GLONASS chip seems to be all the time on. With current battery performance I can't think of using this as my primary phone.
Testing continues with conditions changed:
- Developer mode off
- WiFi off

0:00 18:55 battery 100 %, test has started, USB cable unplugged
0:36 19:31 battery 100 %
0:46 19:41 battery 99 %
1:17 20:12 battery 98 %
2:35 21:30 battery 95 %
4:26 23:21 battery 91 %
9:57 04:52 battery 80 %
15:20 10:15 battery 74 %
15:38 10:33 battery 72 %,
25:11 20:06 battery 53 %

53:34 Projected battery charge level 0 %

I don't know if it was disabling of developer mode or WiFi that improved battery consumption so much, but need to test. Next to enable WiFi back ON and continue testing.
 

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2013-12-03 , 18:17
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#948
Originally Posted by bockersjv View Post
Jolla harbour only hold sailfish apps. You want Android apps you go to an Android store. The only Android related item in the Harbour store is the Android compatibility app.
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=885
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=889
 

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2013-12-03 , 18:19
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#949
Originally Posted by marbleuser View Post
Nobody yet?
Regarding offline android gps apps like sygic:

OK.. I assume it can't be done, otherwise people would have been (rightly) boasting about it by now. So does this mean there will never be any turn by turn voice navigation on jolla? nokia never gave us turn by turn on n900 maps, so i'm wondering is this just history repeating itself?
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2013-12-03 , 18:21
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#950
Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=885
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=889
Wow that's a true bummer. Why would they do that, sailfish apps will get lost in a sea of mediocrity.
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