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#951
Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
Testing continues with conditions changed:
- Developer mode off
- WiFi off

0:00 18:55 battery 100 %, test has started, USB cable unplugged
0:36 19:31 battery 100 %
0:46 19:41 battery 99 %
1:17 20:12 battery 98 %
2:35 21:30 battery 95 %
4:26 23:21 battery 91 %
9:57 04:52 battery 80 %
15:20 10:15 battery 74 %
15:38 10:33 battery 72 %,
25:11 20:06 battery 53 %

53:34 Projected battery charge level 0 %

I don't know if it was disabling of developer mode or WiFi that improved battery consumption so much, but need to test. Next to enable WiFi back ON and continue testing.
Maybe there is no WLAN power saving feature activated yet?
 

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#952
Originally Posted by bockersjv View Post
Wow that's a true bummer. Why would they do that, sailfish apps will get lost in a sea of mediocrity.
Personally I think it's a smart move, people will still gravitate to the native apps (where they can) for the greatly superior experience they'll (usually) offer.*
The Android ones must be carefully curated (I hope a speedy/efficient process for that is devised), & they could even secure the odd commercial one if they can, but they should mainly focus on native ones for those sort of deals.

*I hope they eventually have a clever "feeds" system, whereby we can pull (via harbour) from multiple android/non-android sources -if we so choose

Last edited by jalyst; 2013-12-03 at 18:35. Reason: typo
 
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#953
For first time I am being dissapointed at Jolla but also the fan reviewers/bloggers.

The reason is how Android support has been hyped up to much. That may hurt in the end when people realize apps may not work and crashing etc... I can understand that people want Android apps but still this should not be the "big thing".

What I want is more Sailfishos based apps not focus on Android application support! If I want Android phone I would go for some Android device. And I am suprised how much TMO folks seems to focus on Android apps on they'r Jolla phones

Now I also have seen several tweets and reviews videos where people tests Android apps like whatsup and spotify and so on. Funny is those apps than can be ported to SailfishOS with help of the community if we help each other with the development and testing and so on.

We have whatsap (if I remember name correct) and curespotify.

But my main dissapointment is the Android apps support on Harbour? It's plain wrong IMHO! I really don't get why? Why use QA resources to test Android apps in Harbour store when those resources should be used to fix native SailfishOS apps and bugfixes of the core OS?

I really really don't get it?

We need more native apps! And yes I know this is not only Jollas it also upto us to make that happen! But I think its contraproductive to support Android apps in the store.

So IMHO. Its time for Jolla to setup a hackevent or anything or maybe TMO or whatever. Show the world that we want native apps damnit! Show the world that we are unlike!

I think its way more important we get issues solved to support more librarys like python3 and atlleast PyOtherside and so on.

I may sound bit angry now, but not as angry as a bird, but I just want to give my opinion on this...

We should all work together to wipe out Android support 2015 because then we have every damn app needed as native sailfishapp
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#954
Good news is that there are now some more native apps in the store coming in from the harbour. Keep 'em coming!
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#955
Yes, supporting Android applications in the Jolla store is not a smart move. Jolla should not promote closed APIs based on closed technologies. Using Alien Dalvik as fallback for filling the gaps? That can be understandable, even though it's not ideal. Promoting making new Android applications for Sailfish? That's already bad. It's not even OpenJDK.
 

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#956
Originally Posted by bockersjv View Post
The Lock screen experience

To get more information, such as battery and 3G connectivity you have to pull the screen up.
This IS a major annoyance, to check your battery state you need to double tap and then pull the screen up a bit, but not too much or you get to the multi task screen! IMHO the battery and Phone connectivity should be to the right of the clock so they can be seen at a glance.
Agreed! It would not cause too much clutter on the lock screen and just double tapping for the clock and battery status would be preferable.
 

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#957
Originally Posted by bockersjv View Post
Wow that's a true bummer. Why would they do that, sailfish apps will get lost in a sea of mediocrity.
well, now that you know that they coexist at the same place, do you see any way to filter only native? I still don't know the answer on that, I'm not sure that I actually unerstand what pycage said before.
 
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#958
I think it's smart because they want to make sure the Android experience improves over time...
They need to actively support both* (but much more emphasis on native, + html5 longer-term), if they have a Android env. that's pure crud it'll be much worse than not having it at all.

*sadly that's the position they find themselves in, even with their tiny resources :-/

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#959
does the phone support MAP bluetooth profile? or for that matter, BT profiles does it support?
 
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Originally Posted by droll View Post
does the phone support MAP bluetooth profile? or for that matter, BT profiles does it support?
At least it lists MAP among the supported profiles it detects on my paired N9. What is MAP for? How to test?
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