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ukki	2010-12-03 , 15:37
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Originally Posted by Larswad

Got a new effect: Everything plays just fine in the N900, but the music progress bar is wacky. It moves for a few secs, like say up to ten secs, then it goes back to beginning again. Strange huh?
Anyone else seen this? I don't want to browse ~100 pages of posts back to find out.

Can you git pull and report if this still keeps happening?

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	Addison	2010-12-04 , 03:25
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Hey Janne!

Just wondering, is there any possibility that Knots could interact with XBMC is some fashion?

That would so rock if it could!

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ukki	2010-12-04 , 11:55
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Originally Posted by Addison

Just wondering, is there any possibility that Knots could interact with XBMC is some fashion?

Nope James.

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	Addison	2010-12-04 , 19:41
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Yep. I figured as much.

I tend to live in dreamland. *lol*

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Larswad	2010-12-06 , 09:53
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@ukki:Thanks, it did update (patched) a couple of files. After restarting knots server (linux) the progress bar seems ok! But I'll give it a while to see that the effect doesn't come back. My vlc is 1.0.2 btw.

Another thing, just as a little info to you, because it's kind of interesting. At bugs.meamo.org there was a bug report (don't remember the number right now) that some applications suffered from a sudden audio stuttering when the screen was dimming, or when the user clicks the lock button. This bug report if I remember it right was hard to prove that this problem wasn't oroginating from the applications, and that this was something related to either pulse-audio or some other thing in the OS code...I think the bug was closed after a while.
Anyway, I am still not convinced at all, I believe this is something strange somewhere in the Nokia code, either something is not documented right or there is some real bug.
Knots were among the apps that I have personally noticed this (and still do), but also the MSid application does this.

Ukki, have you noticed this sudden audio stuttering thing yourself, and do you have any idea what is going on while that screen dimming / screen locking is triggered?

EDIT: The bugreport I mentioned was this one:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7383

Last edited by Larswad; 2010-12-07 at 09:40.

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ukki	2010-12-06 , 12:46
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Originally Posted by Larswad

@ukki:Thanks, it did update (patched) a couple of files. After restarting knots server (linux) the progress bar seems ok! But I'll give it a while to see that the effect doesn't come back. My vlc is 1.0.2 btw.

I still managed to trigger it, but now the problem goes away without restarting the server. Need to fix it properly once I find out what still triggers it.

Originally Posted by Larswad

Ukki, have you noticed this sudden audio stuttering thing yourself, and do you have any idea what is going on while that screen dimming / screen locking is triggered?

Yes, I have noticed it. It happens with both mplayer and gstreamer, but I don't know for sure what causes it. I thought the bug was gone after upgrading to 1.3, but it came back after a while. Sometimes it doesn't happen right after reboot, but usually anything related to screen (dimming, rotating etc.) causes that audio stuttering. I think using mafw as a backend would fix the issue, but I haven't found motivation to write that yet.

EDIT: Mafw Vala bindings aren't up to task it seems.

Last edited by ukki; 2010-12-07 at 17:50.

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vectis810	2010-12-15 , 19:31
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Hi, I've been trying all day to get this working in Slax (a Slackware derivative) but the following problem persists:

Code:

bash-3.1$ ./knots.rb

[2010-12-15 19:29:06] Welcome to Knots - http://wiki.maemo.org/Knots2
[2010-12-15 19:29:06] Starting Knots in /home/phil/knots with ruby 1.9.                            1
[2010-12-15 19:29:06] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:07] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:08] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:09] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:10] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:11] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:12] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:13] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:14] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:15] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:16] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:17] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:18] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:19] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:21] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:22] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:23] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:24] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:25] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:26] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:27] VLC failed to start properly. Knots will not work.
[2010-12-15 19:29:27] You can access the server with http://localhost:1978
[2010-12-15 19:29:27] Press ctrl-c to close the server

Everything appears to be working other than the server connection to vlc.

I have tried 3 different vlc packages and I always get the same result, though 1 I tried actually opened vlc but still the same error!

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ukki	2010-12-15 , 19:48
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Originally Posted by vectis810

Hi, I've been trying all day to get this working in Slax (a Slackware derivative) but the following problem persists:

Code:

bash-3.1$ ./knots.rb

[2010-12-15 19:29:06] Welcome to Knots - http://wiki.maemo.org/Knots2
[2010-12-15 19:29:06] Starting Knots in /home/phil/knots with ruby 1.9.                            1
[2010-12-15 19:29:06] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:07] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:08] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:09] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:10] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:11] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:12] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:13] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:14] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:15] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:16] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:17] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:18] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:19] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:21] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:22] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:23] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:24] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:25] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:26] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 19:29:27] VLC failed to start properly. Knots will not work.
[2010-12-15 19:29:27] You can access the server with http://localhost:1978
[2010-12-15 19:29:27] Press ctrl-c to close the server

Code:

vlc --version

What version is your VLC? If it's older than 1.1 (which would be a good thing), run

Code:

./scripts/setup new_vlc 0

in the knots directory and try starting the server again.

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vectis810	2010-12-15 , 20:03
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Wow, Thanks!

Code:

bash-3.1$ ./scripts/setup new_vlc 0
new_vlc => 0
bash-3.1$ ./knots.rb

[2010-12-15 20:03:14] Welcome to Knots - http://wiki.maemo.org/Knots2
[2010-12-15 20:03:14] Starting Knots in /home/phil/knots with ruby 1.9.1
[2010-12-15 20:03:14] Waiting for VLC to start
[2010-12-15 20:03:15] VLC started properly
[2010-12-15 20:03:15] You can access the server with http://localhost:1978
[2010-12-15 20:03:15] Press ctrl-c to close the server

So what did I miss? (other than the obvious above code)

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ukki	2010-12-15 , 20:16
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Originally Posted by vectis810

So what did I miss? (other than the obvious above code)

It's the "Using VLC 1.1 or newer" setting, that is now on by default. Videolan rewrote the telnet interface in 1.1 and renamed the old one to oldtelnet. So Knots tried to enable oldtelnet which is named differently in 1.0 hence it failed to start. But hopefully it will now work.