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2017-07-24
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The paper referred to in the article can be downloaded from:
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/...01839215606951
It paints Nokia as an organization with a high fear Level and a top management with low technological competecies.
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/...01839215606951
It paints Nokia as an organization with a high fear Level and a top management with low technological competecies.
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2017-07-29
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Interestinf read for sure
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2017-07-30
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Sounds like common Finnish working attitude. Army attitude is often transferred right into business culture in many places.
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2017-07-31
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Interesting, although this is old news. At least it was (I think) well understood even back then that the whole incompetence of their organization was thanks to large-scale mis-management.
This same mis-management was the reason why Harmattan took so long to develop, and also the reason why MeeGo as a whole was too late to the market as well.
In my opinion, the transition to Harmattan should have been a gradual change, and they should have been more committed to Maemo / MeeGo than they turned out to be.
At least, those are my 20 cents.
This same mis-management was the reason why Harmattan took so long to develop, and also the reason why MeeGo as a whole was too late to the market as well.
In my opinion, the transition to Harmattan should have been a gradual change, and they should have been more committed to Maemo / MeeGo than they turned out to be.
- They should have phased out Symbian right after the N900 launch
- There should have been more Maemo 5 devices, including a "more mainstream" one without the keyboard
- Instead of being such a giant change, Harmattan should have come as a series of gradual, smaller upgrades
- Maemo 5 devices should have been upgradeable to Harmattan as well.
- Harmattan should have been released sooner and by the time it was fully developed Symbian should have been fully phased out.
At least, those are my 20 cents.
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2017-07-31
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Originally Posted by Venemo
I believe if they would have switched to Maemo, there'd been no Harmattan, but Maemo, as it ought to be in the first place.
Interesting, although this is old news. At least it was (I think) well understood even back then that the whole incompetence of their organization was thanks to large-scale mis-management.
This same mis-management was the reason why Harmattan took so long to develop, and also the reason why MeeGo as a whole was too late to the market as well.
In my opinion, the transition to Harmattan should have been a gradual change, and they should have been more committed to Maemo / MeeGo than they turned out to be.
- They should have phased out Symbian right after the N900 launch
- There should have been more Maemo 5 devices, including a "more mainstream" one without the keyboard
- Instead of being such a giant change, Harmattan should have come as a series of gradual, smaller upgrades
- Maemo 5 devices should have been upgradeable to Harmattan as well.
- Harmattan should have been released sooner and by the time it was fully developed Symbian should have been fully phased out.
At least, those are my 20 cents.
So actually the argument of Harmattan not being ready does not make sense kindof, cause Nokia *was* ready, with Maemo.
EDIT - this ineherently raises the question; why did they not stick with Maemo? Was it "only" symbian in-house politics?
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Last edited by tortoisedoc; 2017-07-31 at 20:36.
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2017-08-17
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Originally Posted by tortoisedoc
Harmattan is Maemo. More precisely, the codename of Maemo 6 was Harmattan.
I believe if they would have switched to Maemo, there'd been no Harmattan, but Maemo, as it ought to be in the first place.
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2017-08-17
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Originally Posted by Venemo
Yes and no; harmattan is not *only* maemo. See for instance qt on harmattan vs gtk/osso on maemo.
Harmattan is Maemo. More precisely, the codename of Maemo 6 was Harmattan.
Point being, if they had sticked with Maemo (and gtk), they would have been ready for the iPhone already back during N900 era.
What I mean is; given they were so "frightened" by the iPhone, as they knew it would be mortal for their business; the N900 got ignored. Totally. You'd think in desperate times, you resolve to desperate measures?
EDIT: I guess gtk's single-touch nature might have hindered their plans?
Some wood for the flaming
:https://blogs.gnome.org/carlosg/2010...-linuxxorggtk/
Basically in 2010, one year before N9, gtk had multitouch support already. With proper backup, it could have been done in even shorter timeframe. So much for the single vs multitouch argument. Next?
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2017-08-17
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On the other hand proper backup behind GTK's multitouch would mean having to further endure Gobject's weird "dynamic object-oriented classes entirely done with C and macros". (Or would require an even bigger backup behind Vala).
Whereas switching to Qt basically switched to the much simplet "qt dialect of C++" - much cleaner and simpler. Which could have opened it to many more 3rd party developers.
Whereas switching to Qt basically switched to the much simplet "qt dialect of C++" - much cleaner and simpler. Which could have opened it to many more 3rd party developers.
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Last edited by deutch1976; 2017-07-24 at 10:46.