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2007-10-21
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Looks like maemo-mapper / flite have a long life ahead on the maemo/moko platforms ;-)
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2007-10-21
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Guess i'll not be complaining about Navicore 2007 on my N800 then or even Windows Live Search w/Voice (*El Free* !!!) on my Treo 700Wx... 
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2007-10-21
, 23:54
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i wont buy the damned thing if they do it like this. ive been saying it in every thread on this board. ill buy a Samsung Q1 Ultra for $714 before ill drop $610 on the N810.
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2007-10-21
, 23:59
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As I've said on many different posts on this site, it costs MUCH more a year to keep TomTom maps up to date, so that's not really a onetime thing either.
Other alternatives for other devices cost even more as well- ie Telenav costs $10 a month ($120 a year, almost the same price for 3 years with the N810).
Other alternatives for other devices cost even more as well- ie Telenav costs $10 a month ($120 a year, almost the same price for 3 years with the N810).
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2007-10-22
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when you buy a tomtom, you dont immediately have to pay $130 to get the navigating features....but you have a choice of paying to keep the maps up to date. also why should i pay extra for something thats already on the tablet?
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2007-10-22
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Lets not forget that Nokia now OWNS Navteq. I do not feel that the N810 present good value as a GPS solution. The n810 is overpriced as it is, they REALLY shouldn't be adding an extra couple hundred bucks on top of it. Also, it sounds like the GPS implementation in the N810 is rather poor with a GPS that takes a long time to lock on and doesn't lock on to a lot of satellites.
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2007-10-22
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This doesnt make sense to me, I have owned a TomTom for a few years already and havent yet felt a burning need to update the maps. If Nokia played this one properly this could be the killer app that could take the tablet from geek toy to one that appeals to the massess.
Nokia, do yourself a favour, scrap plans for license fee's.
Nokia, do yourself a favour, scrap plans for license fee's.
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2007-10-22
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My brother recently bought a TomTom, it had a few year old maps on it, which didn't even include the street that he lived on. Brand new unit, and in order to get something that was remotely current, they wanted him to buy new maps.
I would also prefer that the navigation features were included for free, but $130 for 3 years isn't bad at all.
(Of course, I also think $480 is overpriced for what the N810 adds, but the street price will hopefully be around $325, that'd be much more reasonable.)
I would also prefer that the navigation features were included for free, but $130 for 3 years isn't bad at all.
(Of course, I also think $480 is overpriced for what the N810 adds, but the street price will hopefully be around $325, that'd be much more reasonable.)
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2007-10-22
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Originally Posted by stewwalton
This doesnt make sense to me, I have owned a TomTom for a few years already and havent yet felt a burning need to update the maps. If Nokia played this one properly this could be the killer app that could take the tablet from geek toy to one that appeals to the massess.
Nokia, do yourself a favour, scrap plans for license fee's.
And scrap any plans to generate revenue to keep maps up to date and add features to the existing app.
Better yet, remove the free aspects of the app from the OS and just include a GPS utility that shows signal strength and satellite position like the cell phone and WinMo devices have been doing for years. (he said sarcastically)
I am glad you started a new thread instead of making your objections known in off topic blurbs in other threads
The following was posted by me in one of those other threads:
Originally Posted by A dang good looking forum member
Now what do you propose Nokia do about the people like myself who have already purchased Navicore? Give us a $100 credit in the Nokia store and just say "Well that's technology for ya"?What isn't mentioned much is the statement I read somewhere that POI's in this 0S2008 app will launch the device's web browser if an IP addy is associated with them.
It doesn't take much imagination to think that contacts and eventually phone numbers can also be linked to this app.
What baffles me is the stink over the pay for play aspect of the navigation feature. If anyone would be skeptical of Nokia's intent it would be N800 owners like myself who have already paid for the Navicore app.
When this new feature was announced I felt for sure that we were somehow being screwed by Nokia. As further info became available I found that current Navicore licensees can simply enter their code and enjoy all the features.
Nobody getting boinked here. In fact non Navicore owners are getting the essential features for free by simply upgrading their OS. Looking at the navigation set up screens shown for the new device...
It looks to me like the only feature (other than voice) missing from the free version is "find location"...
All this stink and "subscription" talk is prompted by one line on the Wafinder site "36 months license of Wayfinder Navigator™ for your Nokia N810i"
I happen to read it as providing 36 months of support.
3 years is a long time to provide support for a Navigation program on a single device. In the same time period in the past, TomTom running on a WinMo PPC has gone from version 3 to version 7 requiring more money from users twice.
Hell, the dang WinMo device has changed 3 times and I don't even think TomTom 7 will run on a 3 year old device.
(BTW, in addition to the original purchase price, a subscription IS required for TomTom Plus services like POI updates and Traffic info.)
My question is this: Why would someone think that complaining on an enthusiasts forum about the price of additional features for an app that Nokia has given to us gratis would change anything?
The big story remains:
Nokia has given early adopters of the N8** series new, free features like GPS location, Maps, and video software.
I actually feel good about my decision to purchase the N800 when it first came out and don't think I'm missing a dang thing.
(BTW, that^ feeling was much different 3 months ago
I for one want additional features (even more than what premium offers now). How will that be possible if it is given away for free?
I read the 36 months license differently. I see it as a guarantee that any additional features and map upgrades will be included during that time frame.
Is there any other navigator product that makes the same offer?
Last edited by YoDude; 2007-10-22 at 00:54.
As some of you may know, the N810 will currently ship with GPS functionality but w/o the software required to fully utilize it. In order to do route planning or get turn-by-turn directions, you'll have to purchase a temporary license that costs $130.00 and is only good for three years.
Currently, portable GPS units are available for $100-$200 that do all that without the encumbrance of a temporary "license," that according to the website may change w/o notice.
Additionally consider that this GPS "surcharge" raises the price of the N810 to $600...and who knows if you'll be required to pony up another $130 once this license expires?
I've voiced my objections at Ari Jaaski's blog. This is a management decision that could easily be reversed prior to shipment. If you think this is ill-thought-out, I hope you'll voice your objections too. Let's ask Nokia to fix this!
Jeff Elkins