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Posts: 31 | Thanked: 1 time | Joined on Oct 2007 @ Germany
#1
I got my N800 Friday last week and i have played with it since then.

It is really easy to use, for the main purpose i bought it. Surfing..
I allso managed to installe a few ne apps. Ok, thats not to hard, with the one klick installers.. ^^'

But i allso realised that i should start learning some linux things, so i could really use it.

I never before hat contact with the linux world, so I'm not sure, where to start.

So, what books, pages, tutorials whould you suggest? Which themes are important?

Thanks for your help,
Eismaus
 
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I'd recommend installing FBReader (an eBook viewer) and head over to www.gutenberg.org. There's a very good, free, eBook about Debian GNU/Linux. Debian is not exactly like our Maemo Linux distribution, but this book is a good start to get some basics.

It's also great experience to blow the dust off and old PC and install Linux on it. The installation and setup process is an amazing introduction and tutorial to the Linux OS and community.

Best of luck.
 
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Eismaus, I remember a similar thread a while ago. The answer is: it depends

Frankly, as somebody who is fairly familiar with GNU/Linux, I would find it hard to learn it on a tablet. Its simply because "learnig" also means to try something, to follow examples in the book etc., and thats not really comfortable on the small screen and without a full keyboard. Also, the Mameo platform has some concepts that a usual desktop-PC with GNU/Linux wouldnt have.

So first thing I'd suggest is: Get yourself some live-CD (knoppix or whatever, it really doesnt matter much) so you have a more comfortable learning environment. (Another advantage: you cant ruin anything with such a live-CD)

From what your profile tells us, you speak German. I'll try to rember looking at some books that helped me in the beginning. Cant remember the titles now i'm at the office...

Ah, yes, and the one thing you should know: There's no such thing as "learning GNU/Linux". there are some very basic fundaments that are true for every system, but many other things differ and depend on which distribution you use. the things that are fundamental are very low-level and often not really interesting for a user. the things that are specific to a distribution are more relevant when you work with the device, but you cannot take the knowledge from ubuntu and use it 1:1 on nokias tablets.
 
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Thanks for the answers.

Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
Eismaus, I remember a similar thread a while ago. The answer is: it depends .
Do you have a link for this tread?

Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
So first thing I'd suggest is: Get yourself some live-CD (knoppix or whatever, it really doesnt matter much) so you have a more comfortable learning environment. (Another advantage: you cant ruin anything with such a live-CD).
Does live-CD mean, that i could run it on a windows pc?

Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
Ah, yes, and the one thing you should know: There's no such thing as "learning GNU/Linux". there are some very basic fundaments that are true for every system, but many other things differ and depend on which distribution you use. the things that are fundamental are very low-level and often not really interesting for a user. the things that are specific to a distribution are more relevant when you work with the device, but you cannot take the knowledge from ubuntu and use it 1:1 on nokias tablets.
Which distribution would come close to nokias tablets?
 
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Yes a live cd is one you boot your computer off of and it runs the os from teh cd. No writing to the hd so it will not effect the operating system on that machine. I get Linux format or Linux Magazine as they come with dvd's and usually have a live version off there that you can try. The dvd also has version you can install if you have a spare machine. check out knoppix as it is a very popular live cd version.

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Hello Eismaus,
since you are German, you might be interested in this freely available Linux book.
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/98062
I have not yet read it, but since I am also interested in "learning" Linux from scratch, I downloaded it and (hopefully) will find time to read it soon.
Good luck, thlinux
 
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Again thanks for the answers.

I try knoppix and defintly have a look at the ebook. Thanks for the link!
 
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This site has just started a "class" introducing Linux:

http://www.linuxbasics.org/

You could get in on the ground floor by starting now. It's free. It just involves reading basic info, which they provide, and doing your own experimenting. I found it helpful. People join many weeks late, but this just started a day or two ago.
 
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Actually it starts on November 8th.
This looks really intressting. Thanks for the tipp.

Some other N800 Newbies join with me?
 
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Originally Posted by Eismaus View Post
Do you have a link for this tread?
http://internettablettalk.com/forums...ead.php?t=7053

Originally Posted by Eismaus View Post
Which distribution would come close to nokias tablets?
Debian. But that doesnt help you much. What you interact with on screen was designed for the tablets and will not be covered in Debian-related books.

Speaking of books:

I liked "Linux / Unix - Grundlagen. Kommandos und Konzepte (Open Source Library)" by Helmut Herold a lot, but its really technical and covers things that are common to many Unix-like systems, not only GNU/Linux. Actually, it helped me more than all other material, but it depends on how far you want to go. My brain is all 0s and 1s, you see, I like reading such stuff...
The more popular one is "Linux -- Installation, Konfiguration, Anwendung" by Michael Kofler. You get last years edition for €18 at amazon.de. While this book is great and a real classic for those who start using GNU/Linux on the desktop, it might be to application-centric for a tablet-user. You can preview some chapters as pdf at kofler.cc
 
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