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2007-12-21 , 11:02
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I dug up some interesting info on the N810 GPS chipset by examining gpsdriver ('strings /usr/sbin/gpsdriver'):

1) gpsdriver repeatedly references 'GPS5300'. This is a "lowest cost" GPS chipset made by Texas instruments for mobile phones. See this link for example:

http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtb...+OT+navilink_4

So it appears that N810 does NOT have a SiRF Star III chip after all. This is bad news for N810 owners, as no amount of software changes by Nokia will help the 2+ minute aquisition times. You can also forget about WAAS.

2) Internal GPS is controlled via /dev/ttyS0.

Thoughts? I hope someone can prove me wrong regarding SiRF Star III.

Edit: It has been confirmed that N810 indeed has a TI 5300 GPS chip.
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2007-12-21 , 11:15
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BTW, this is the same chipset as found in Nokia E90.
 
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2007-12-22 , 00:34
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I truly hope you're wrong about that. The built in GPS was a significant part of my decision to buy this thing. Hopefully somebody can come up with a logical explanation of why you're seeing what you are. I don't know enough about the hardware to even try though.
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2007-12-22 , 23:05
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I too decided to buy n810 because of GPS capability.
However after trying 2 units and having very slow results locking on I decided to return.
I feel if you are paying for a feature it should work.
I ordered an Asus EEE and love it.
It does a better job at web browsing than N810.
 
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2007-12-22 , 23:14
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Originally Posted by jds54 View Post
I too decided to buy n810 because of GPS capability.
However after trying 2 units and having very slow results locking on I decided to return.
I feel if you are paying for a feature it should work.
I ordered an Asus EEE and love it.
It does a better job at web browsing than N810.
How's the GPS in your Eee?
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2007-12-22 , 23:19
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How's the GPS in your Eee?
He must have very big pockets, too.
 
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2007-12-22 , 23:36
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My point is your paying for GPS in n810 and it is crap.
Asus EEE was $130 less and performs better at browsing.
I have a Garmin Nuvi so EEE without GPS is not issue.
I wanted a second GPS source however N810 does not warrant keeping for a sub par feature.
Keep trying Nokia. Maybe someday they will have a product worth buying.
 
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2007-12-22 , 23:41
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Originally Posted by jds54 View Post
My point is your paying for GPS in n810 and it is crap.
Asus EEE was $130 less and performs better at browsing.
I have a Garmin Nuvi so EEE without GPS is not issue.
I wanted a second GPS source however N810 does not warrant keeping for a sub par feature.
Keep trying Nokia. Maybe someday they will have a product worth buying.
They already are. N800 + i-blue is a fantastic browsing and GPS combination, and it's cheaper than the Eee.
 

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2007-12-23 , 00:01
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Originally Posted by jds54 View Post
My point is your paying for GPS in n810 and it is crap.
Asus EEE was $130 less and performs better at browsing.
I have a Garmin Nuvi so EEE without GPS is not issue.
I wanted a second GPS source however N810 does not warrant keeping for a sub par feature.
Keep trying Nokia. Maybe someday they will have a product worth buying.
I was merely commenting on the fact that you apparently have seen the light: Convergence devices are almost never an improvement.

That's one of the reasons why I'll never buy a N810.
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2007-12-23 , 00:54
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Originally Posted by jds54 View Post
My point is your paying for GPS in n810 and it is crap.
Asus EEE was $130 less and performs better at browsing.
I have a Garmin Nuvi so EEE without GPS is not issue.
I wanted a second GPS source however N810 does not warrant keeping for a sub par feature.
Keep trying Nokia. Maybe someday they will have a product worth buying.
Nokia has plenty of products worth buying, including the N810. You don't like it? Boo hoo.

While I also like the eeeeeeeh? as a browser/email device I can leave lying around, one can't easily compare it with the N810. Different use-cases, different capabilities, etc. I'll take the N810 over and Eee anytime when I'm out in the car or walking about and the Eee when I'm sitting out in the garage.

Having gone through a few revs of the GPS software on the N95 and seeing the current state of the N810 software I'm not surprised that it isn't ready for prime time yet. It will probably eventually reach a usable state. Of course if you are the kind of person that needs GPS then you might want to go with a nice philosophy-major-friendly device like a Tom-Tom.
 
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