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2006-03-04 , 06:11
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Our forum brother tonikitoo released MANaOS 0.1.2 on Friday. Although it still needs a lot of work, I went ahead and made some device-installable debs for those of you queazy about whipping out xterm and dpkg.

It's very slow, and it crashes a lot (beware the hardware buttons), so be careful on large sites, but google works well, and it looks very pretty. I'm looking forward to a release of the source code so that I can try optimizing it a bit.

Enjoy, but please take with a grain of patience.
 
konttori is offline konttori
2006-03-04 , 11:51
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Great work! I'll have to test asap!

ouch! The moz engine is still huge. Do you know if there are any possibilities of getting it smaller any time soon?
 
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2006-03-04 , 20:17
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yeah, there are indeed lot things to do/improve comprising both engine level optimization as MANaOS UI.

Regarding the engine, we're running MANaOS over a "raw" MIniMo (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo) build, which is XUL-based application and so still has many unused stuff (/chrome and /res directory e.g.). Furthermore, another possible slowness issue on mozilla-engine itself is that it still relies on the usage of FP for critical actions (actually, mozilla does it by default and CAIRO is coming with much more of it), so although all the efforts of Minimo community to strip down mozilla/firefox regarding the sourcebase itself, there is no a complete "arm-optimized" version of it (like opera does), aiming non-FP based processors. Thus, it really make runtime performance worse than it should be.

anyways, I going to test gnuite .debs out ! Many thanks !

Community support would really make MANaOS end-user-friendly for a near future. Source code will be available soon regardless its status
 
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2006-03-04 , 21:12
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just curious, can anyone explain to me why www.google.com/reader works in manaos and not in the default opera browser? when purchasing the device i was really looking forward to using goggle reader as my default, web-based rss reader, but i'm stuck with newsreader until manaos is more snappy
 
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2006-03-05 , 06:08
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Hey, its great that you guys worked on the GUI install package.

I'm having problems running it through the extras menu though.
The debs seemed to install fine, and the app shows up on the extras menu, but it won't start up.

I had previously installed manaos through xterm, and it was working (granted, with much bugs, as I think I installed a very early version).

do I need to remove the old files? if so, which files in which directories do I have to remove ? (I would also like to rid of any deadweight on my limited storage space)
 
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2006-03-05 , 06:49
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OK, so after a few uninstalls and installs (in between I got some "unsupported package" messages for some reason) I was able to get it running from the "extras" menu. So that problem is solved.

however, if anyone knows the answer to the previous question, that is, whether I should remove the old installation I made through command-line, and which files exactly to remove, I'd appreciate any pointers.

by the way, its really nice to not have to be root and type long commands to launch the app now. Also I see some stability improvements, like the keyboard not popping up all the time.

Thanks for your hard work!
 
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2006-03-05 , 14:30
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is it possible to use softfloat easily for the mozilla engine? That should speed it up quite nicely if it doesn't, shouldn't it?
 

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2006-03-05 , 22:27
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Originally Posted by oafbot
OK, so after a few uninstalls and installs (in between I got some "unsupported package" messages for some reason) I was able to get it running from the "extras" menu. So that problem is solved.

however, if anyone knows the answer to the previous question, that is, whether I should remove the old installation I made through command-line, and which files exactly to remove, I'd appreciate any pointers.
i am not able to reproduce your problems yet. Though I'll at the time I get at work tommorrow, and I am going to blog the removing needs and posting them here also.
 
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2006-03-05 , 22:55
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Originally Posted by oafbot
Hey, its great that you guys worked on the GUI install package.

I'm having problems running it through the extras menu though.
The debs seemed to install fine, and the app shows up on the extras menu, but it won't start up.

I had previously installed manaos through xterm, and it was working (granted, with much bugs, as I think I installed a very early version).

do I need to remove the old files? if so, which files in which directories do I have to remove ? (I would also like to rid of any deadweight on my limited storage space)
Yeah, you should probably uninstall all traces of any old versions of MANaOS you installed. If you used dpkg -x, then use dpkg -c on the same debs to see which files were installed and where. You can scrape together a script to automatically remove the files. Here's the one I use:

Code:
#!/bin/sh

BASE_DIR=/

DEB=$1

if [ "$1" = "" ]
then
        echo "USAGE: undpkg.sh [package.deb]"
        exit 1
fi

/usr/bin/dpkg -c $1 | sed "s/.*[0-9]\{4\}-[0-9]\{2\}-[0-9]\{2\} [0-9]\{2\}:[0-9]\{2\}:[0-9]\{2\} \(.*\)/\1/; s/\(.*\) -> .*/\1/" | sort -r | while read FILE
do
        FILE=$BASE_DIR/$FILE
        if [ -f "$FILE" ]
        then
                rm "$FILE"
        elif [ -d "$FILE" ]
        then
                rmdir "$FILE" 2>/dev/null
        fi
done
Just write that to an executable script file on your device and run it as root, passing it the .deb file whose contents you want to remove from your root file system.

(I take no responsibility for how that script is used.)
 
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2006-03-06 , 07:19
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this is just a guess, but could the installer run out of mem? I had probs installing while browser was open. But it installed fine after i closed the browser.
 
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