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I got a N800 after the price dropped, and simply love it, have been using it every day since I got it.

Though am not really a touchscreen fan when i comes to typing, and for that reason plus some other I have recently been thinking of getting the N810 fot its hardware keyboard and smaller and better looking design.

Have been looking at many reviews and not least the walkthrough videos here on ITT, but some issues has not been in focus, like is the build in GPS receiver any good, is the slider firm, battery life how is it compared to N800 and so on, in short will all af you N810 owners recommend the N810, and what is good and bad abouut the N810 in your opinion?
 
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Well, I think the keyboard is a huge win. My fiancee has the N800 and it's just no comparison (especially for terminal work). However, 200USD is a big difference just for the keyboard and the built-in GPS is an 80% dud. Why? Lock-on time is atrocious. It routinely takes 5 minutes or longer to get a position after activating the GPS. Some people report that dancing in particular patterns or sacrificing chicken will help, but it's unclear if there is any method to speed it up. (Sometimes it will be fast to get a lock, but you never quite know why it works fast sometimes and not other times). If the GPS worked better and you wanted a GPS, it would be a shoe-in. As it is - I always feel like I might have spend my money better by getting a bluetooth GPS (but then again - more devices, more chargers etc...)

The slider is mechanically great, no worries there. Haven't done any good comparison on battery life, but they seem to be about the same.
 
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The main reason I did not get one is the fact that it has only one Micro SD card slot, while the N800 has TWO full-size SD slots. I believe you can only get 8gb micro sd cards right now, while you can get 32gb sd cards. So, 8 or 16gb storage, versus 64gb.
 
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I am still going through the "shall I get an N810" process. The answer is yes, but I am still justifying.

The two card setup on the n800 is excellent I imagine, and a shame it didn't make it to the n810.

This is the one thing that I wonder about. I imagine having a number of micro SD cards, at 8gb, with different things on them as I need. Movies, whatever,

But what if I want to start booting from the sd? This would mean maintaining the OS on different cards, which would be madness.

Are people finding the storage a restriction on the n810?
 
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the only thing i didnt like about my n810 is no fm radio!! but other than that its great i cant put it down
 
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Originally Posted by whc View Post
is the build in GPS receiver any good, is the slider firm, battery life how is it compared to N800 and so on, in short will all af you N810 owners recommend the N810, and what is good and bad abouut the N810 in your opinion?
The GPS seems to be pretty accurate, but it often takes several minutes to get a lock - noticeably longer than other GPS devices I've used. Also, despite the fact that the N810 comes pre-loaded with street maps (which take up most of the internal memory), you have to pay a subscription fee if you want to get driving directions with the built in software (!) You can of course install the excellent free/open Maemo Mapper, but then you have to download maps and directions from Google in advance of each trip - much less convenient than having maps of the whole continent with you all the time.

Originally Posted by m_stolle View Post
The slider is mechanically great, no worries there.
I disagree... The two halves of my device wiggle a lot whether it's open or closed. When it's open, the right side feels significantly looser than the left. From what I hear, this is a common problem: http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=17026

Battery life seems similar to the N800.

The hardware keyboard has an awkward layout which takes some getting used to. Also, it is conspicuously lacking "tab" and "pipe" keys; for those you'll have to hit the "Chr" key to bring up the on-screen character palette. This is particularly annoying when working in the terminal. And you have to use the Fn key to type a slash - not exactly ideal for entering URLs. Still, it is faster than the on-screen keyboard, especially once you've used it for a while.

Despite the flaws, I do like my N810. It's smaller and looks nicer than the N800. Then again, had I not been among the lucky recipients of the developer discount, I wouldn't have bought it - not because of the flaws I described, but because my N800 still works and the N810 isn't cheap.
 
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There are a few considerations.

1. The N800 is cheaper.

2. More storage for the N800.

3. If you want GPS, you can choose which unit you buy, rather than having to choose the one built in to the N810.

4. Having a detachable GPS unit, as you do if you buy your own, lets you set the GPS unit where the reception is best, rather than keep it wherever the N810 is, which you of course have to do with a built-in GPS.

5. You might or might not prefer a separate bluetooth keyboard. I bought one for $30.

6. However, the N810 has a screen that you can read outside in the sun. That's a nice feature.

I don't know how the sound of the N810 compares to the N800 which I think is fine.
 
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I own both the N800 and the N810, and I've not touched my N800 since I got my N810. Literally, not touched. It's better in every way that I can think of.

However:
1. I never had more than 2 2GB cards in my N800, so that wasn't an issue
2. I have an N95, and the mapping software for the tablet (both Maps and MaemoMapper (apologies)) SUCKS for actually using in the car, specially compared to what's available for my phone

Other than that, the N810 is miles better.
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#9
FM Radio missing is a huge loss. If Tablets are about mobile communication Radio is an excellent feature. It REALLY doesn't matter it was invented 120 years ago!!!
It has broader coverture that WiFi, you can listen without those 3 to 10 delay seconds (basic if you are watching a match on TV), you have local news and 20 or more channels to choose from.

That is not going to be equaled by IP Broadcasting anytime soon. So it is really necessary to include fm radio into the next versions of the system the same that DVB-H is being included in N96.

No IP streaming video equals air TV broadcasting.

And Being analogical or digital, in case of the radio, shouldn't be a factor to put it or take it away from the tablets.
 
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That is interesting. Live TV annoys me these days. I use mythtv to watch anything I want to watch and wait for a few minutes after the start to give me advert skip room if I am watching it "almost live".

Non-time-shiftable broadcast media just doesn't cut it anymore.
 
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