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I am planning on going on a long travel trip through the us but in remote areas, ive been considering buying the wimax version n810 in April if it comes out, if it dosent come out then ill get an n810. Since ill be away from wall outlets and wifi hotspots i want to also get a solar charger and portable charger to charge the handheld and other devices ill be bringing.

My technical setup for traveling:

1 mp3 player: Samsung s5
2 pairs of headphones
1 bluetooth headset
1 digital camcorder
2 16GB sd memory cards
2 flash drives
1 hardware firewall: yoggie Gatekeeper Pro
1 universal adapter
1 wifi antenna
1 solar charger: Soldius 1 solar charger
1 portable charger: powermonkey portable charger
1 handheld: wimax n810 or n810
1 n810 fm radio transmitter

I dont have all these things yet and i dont have all the specifications either. I'm a newb to this and i was wondering If ther is somethings I can buy or make to make the devices compatible. The Nokia n810s micro usb dosent connect with the soldius 1 solar chargers mini usb and the samsung s5 is only compatible with xp and vista.

Im also thinking of finding a better os for the n810 if there is anything better then the os08 ( like ubuntu mobile).

soldius 1 solar charger:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/travelpower/7d34/

Any help would be appreciated

Last edited by shock345; 2008-03-16 at 03:55.
 
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There's really no better OS's for the internet tablets right now. There's a few projects going on to bring other OS's to the tablets, but they're nowhere near completion. One thing you could try, though, is KDE. It basically gives the tablet a more "desktop" feel.
Can't really help you with all those devices D: Good luck.
 

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ya i dont think ubuntu mobile is complete yet but if there is a prototype version like a beta ubuntu i would try it out.I never heard of KDE ill look into it, its just that for transfering files from the samsung s5 mp3 player would require a windows os. I was thinking of using something like a windows substitute for transfering files on the nokia n810. Thats another reason why im also thinking about getting a palm instead of an n810 becuase of the application compatibility.
 
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I'm about to go on year + world run myself. I decided on the N800 because of 2x sdhc slots. Also the all metal construction make it more robust. The onscreen keyboard works well. I picked up 6 16 gb sdhc cards for photobank, media storage, ebook. I have a bluetooth high sensitivity gps. Maemo mapper is excellent and I installed Kde to print to .pdf, any onlne travel guides.

For my computing needs I have:

1. Nokia N800
2. 6 x 16 gb sdhc flash cards
3. extra oem battery
4. external battery charger, works with same battery for fenix led flashlight
5. Oncourse bluetooth gps
6. battery charger w 12v cigarette charger/ac adapters
7. light weight solar panel (8 oz.) w female cigarette plug
8. set of rechargeable cr123 lithium batteries 1000 ma each
9. ultralight powered usb hub (radio shack)
10. various modded cables, usb to camera, usb extension, mini usb to standard usb female
11. Boxwave usb, cigarette/us 110/220 plug charger
12. international plug adapter
13. mini power strip
14. light bulb outlet adapter

Trying to keep this kit under 2 1/2 lbs. I'll post pics and links if you want.

This set up is ultralight. I have 50 gb of media, 200 movies, wiki offline through sdict, various ebook collections and Kde environment with kde office. Still thinking of porting windows 95 for my ancient quickbooks. I'll be scanning in a mountaineering, wilderness medicine book to .pdf. This setup is the lightest and cheapest fairly full featured portable computing solution. The N800 is lighter than most windows umpc charging bricks.

Where are you off to?

Last edited by davep; 2008-03-16 at 03:27.
 
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Solar cells will not charge *anything* that quickly. Definitely best to do some reasearch and calculations before you assume it will "just work." Check out reviews if possible. Also factor in that if you need to do voltage conversion you should check how efficient the voltage converter/regulator you're using is. Many solar panel power output figures are based on summer at the equator, middle-of-the day, not-a-cloud-in-the-sky scenarios which might not the case where you're traveling. Also, it might actually be worthwhile to look at something like a hand crank or a bike generator if applicable. Please post back if you find anything interesting, cause I'm sure people will be interested. Good luck.

PS: Check around on these forums for info on solar panels and the N800. I seem to remember a thread on this same subject...
 
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"1. Nokia N800
2. 6 x 16 gb sdhc flash cards
3. extra oem battery
4. external battery charger, works with same battery for fenix led flashlight
5. Oncourse bluetooth gps
6. battery charger w 12v cigarette charger/ac adapters
7. light weight solar panel (8 oz.) w female cigarette plug
8. set of rechargeable cr123 lithium batteries 1000 ma each
9. ultralight powered usb hub (radio shack)
10. various modded cables, usb to camera, usb extension, mini usb to standard usb female
11. Boxwave usb, cigarette/us 110/220 plug charger
12. international plug adapter
13. mini power strip
14. light bulb outlet adapter

Trying to keep this kit under 2 1/2 lbs. I'll post pics and links if you want."

wow your setup is realy good it looks pretty flexible, im not very tech savy and im also trying to keep it realy light, im not exactly sure if a usb adapter will help me connect a micro usb device with a mini usb device. ( i realy dont know anything about usb) i heard about usb on the go and was thinking about using that.

Im going around the west coast and then a bit on the east, California, Oregon, Utah, Colorado, Texas, Florida and New york. After that im going around the world if can save up for it.

Pics would be nice, have you heard of:
http://wherethehellismatt.com/
http://projectworldcitizen.wordpress.com/

"Solar cells will not charge *anything* that quickly. Definitely best to do some reasearch and calculations before you assume it will "just work." Check out reviews if possible. Also factor in that if you need to do voltage conversion you should check how efficient the voltage converter/regulator you're using is. Many solar panel power output figures are based on summer at the equator, middle-of-the day, not-a-cloud-in-the-sky scenarios which might not the case where you're traveling. Also, it might actually be worthwhile to look at something like a hand crank or a bike generator if applicable. Please post back if you find anything interesting, cause I'm sure people will be interested. Good luck."

yes, thats very true, i think i would average those situations and look into middle of the day or not a cloud in the sky. I havent looked into a hand crank but i will, i wouldnt want to carry one around if takes too much space. I also will not be using or bringing any bikes. I dont have a voltage converter or regulator which ill now be getting and i dont know any tools to get for measuring electrical efficiency. I am thinking about getting the soldius 1 solar charger becuase
it seems better suited for portable devices. (although at this point i dont realy know) Theres also the solio solar charger.
http://www.cnet.com/4244-5_1-0.html?...srch&target=nw
http://www.engadget.com/2005/06/15/s...works-fast-yo/
http://www.solio.com/charger/
http://www.soldius.com/
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw...=solar+charger

Last edited by shock345; 2008-03-16 at 04:40.
 
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Yup, the solar is really a trickle solution to keep my cr123 s up. Still have to be disciplined on power management in the field, primarily for gps. I did 13 day backpacking trip and power management had to be scrupulously used. This kit will give me sustainable use if I am outside of civilization, but not carte blanc unlimited usage. Of course in civilized areas with electricity I can recharge the unit. The reason why the N800 works for my situation is light weight and ultralow power consumption plus desktop like functionality in a pinch. I'll post pictures and links.
 
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thanks, i would post picks if i had my sony cyber shot working but the battery charger is broken anyways i dont have all those things listed like the handheld n810, fm transmitter for handheld, and even the solar charger but ill be posting links as well.

I found other similar threads such as:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ighlight=solar
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ighlight=solar
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ighlight=solar
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ighlight=solar
 
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Here are some links:

1. Solar panel: http://www.campinggeardepot.com/stor..._40419406.html

2. USB charging cable for N8x0: http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-Charger-Cabl...QQcmdZViewItem

3. Sample Li rechargeable battery charger: http://cgi.ebay.com/4-x-CR123A-CR123...QQcmdZViewItem

The one I bought had a 12 volt cigarette adapter. You will need to get a charger for the batteries you will use as your charge bank for the solar cell array. I used the CR123 for a Fenix LED flashlight (great flashlight) https://www.fenix-store.com/product_...roducts_id=363 (215 lumens in a 1.7 oz package, lol).

3. Minty Boost: http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/. Don't really recommend this since mA out is only 250 mA, but thats what I use to trickle charge things via USB. I have it hacked to accept 2 parallel CR123s. Depending on the type of batteries you use, you can make a usb charger to trickle charge the N8x0. This is just to use stored power from the CR123's and increase the run time of the N8x0.

4. Boxwave combo 110/220, cigarette lighter USB charger, up to 1A (nice):
http://www.boxwave.com/products/vers...rpro/index.htm You can direct connect this to the Nokia N8x0 with the usb charging cable. The Boxwave has a variable 12 to 24V input which is enough to handle the voltage from the solar panel. mA will be variable depending on the sunlight. The solar panel has a one way circuit so it won't dissipate the battery.

5. Radio Shack microusb hub: http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=search

This thing sort of works, but I can't get my Western Digital usb powered hard drive, but I think its the hard drive since even with a desktop hub with a 2.5A power supply, it wouldn't recognize. Hard to say though. This works for a wifi packet injecting capable usb wifi card. It has a Y power cable that can be attached to an external female usb battery power supply for you mobile pen testers.

6. Bluetooth GPS: Here is a good cheap source of Bluetooth GPS:

http://www.buygpsnow.com/bluetooth-gps_9.aspx

7. Cheap SDHC 16 gb: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...5334&name=16GB

Why did I buy a N800 over a N810?

I was able to get the N800 for $182 landed. It has 2 SDHC slots. N810 has 1 miniSD. Presently there are no super cheap 16 gb miniSD cards. At Newegg, a 16 gb SDHC AData card is $65 landed.

The onboard software keyboard is good (some slight bugs but easy workarounds). The N800 has a metal case so its more robust. I have an 8 oz. 32 gb linux microcomputer for $320. When the SDHC go up in capacity I'll always have SDHC x 2 (64 gb when 32 gb cards get cheaper). The Bluetooth GPS units have better sensitivity than the one on the N810 so I decided against getting the N810.

The N810 gps and keyboard wasn't worth sacrificing the dual SDHC slots on the N800, but its just my preference to have as much accessible memory. On my internal card I have my Maemo Mapper file (2 gb!), KDE installation, 10 gb of music, plus an additional 4 gb for storage. I also have another 8 gb of music and 8 gb of movies on my external card. Also the N800 are dirt cheap now.

Last edited by davep; 2008-03-16 at 06:24.
 
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Ya i want to get an n800 just becuase for the dual SDHC slots. I was wondering what kind of usb stuff do u use?

Last edited by shock345; 2008-03-16 at 12:47.
 
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