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Marcelo

Really sorry if this is covered elsewhere but I have done a search, really.

I have the new Beta 7 loaded and have the N810 playing really softly in the background at work on 'play random'. When one track finishes and the next one starts the first split second of the new track plays at a much higher volume than is set.

I've made a video of this which you can view at valleydiary.org/canolaloudstart.mp4 - sorry about the lousy visual, but it's the audio that counts here.

Tim

Can you try the same tip I said to the other guy? Do the following test:

a) open the default media player. Set it's volume to zero
b) open canola, and use regularly

c) tell me if the problem still there ?

Marcelo

Arrrghh! Sorry - from your comment this must have been covered. I'm obviously searching on all the wrong keywords.

Anyway, sometimes yes, sometimes no. I think maybe yes when I skip to nearly the end of the track to test it - it does it on the following track, but if I leave it to play the whole track through then it does not do it on the following track. Is it a bug that can be squashed?!

Tim

...on further testing this does not seem to make any significant difference - it seems quite random - and I have obviously allowed for the fact that some tracks just start quietly so may not notice - even taking this into account it still seems to do it fairly randomly.

Was I supposed to leave Media Player running or turn it off before launching Canola? In my experiments I left it running.

Tim

Tim,

You can close it, but one thing : did you try on the default media player and this doesn't happen there right? they are mp3 files correct?

Marcelo

Marcelo

I did try the built-in Media Player. I only have WMA files loaded on the MiniSD Card, not MP3. There doesn't seem to be a problem with Random Play at start-up with the built-in Media Player for each track. Each track starts as it should.

Tim

Ok, well, the last resort now is can you send us those files? at least 4 or 5 so we can reproduce the error here ?

Marcelo

I will do that and am still testing. There seems to be a clear link to the 'system' volume, not the slider in Media Player. I have it doing the same thing with every track now because the 'system' volume is up higher - and that first louder sound plays at whatever the 'system' volume is set to, for a split second.

Can you replicate it for WMAs you have or would you still like me to send you 5 tracks?

Tim

Tim: as I said the following happens :

There's a system volume ( value 90 for example ) and there's also the media player volume and theres one guy media player engine that everytime we set the volume (when starting a new song to make sure things go right ) this guy (media engine) goes there and set it back to the previous value on the system. This causes the effect that you face of jumping to the other volume and them going back to the Canola set volume.

We were like crazy here a couple weeks ago trying to find out who was that process on dbus that everytime we set volume goes there and change it, then we need to force it again.

I can propose only that volume tip, but if it already failed for you, what I can do is only to say that we are trying to have more control over things, but in this case ( as you can see comes from a third application that we have no access to ) it's really complicated to solve. :/

Marcelo

Marcelo

OK - I can work around it by just making sure the system volume is low when I'm doing what I do for background music - it's not a great deal of hard work to do this - just thought you may like to know. And of course, there are some things that are just uncontrollable for you in the system, I guess.

Thank you so much again for the support. My compliments to you and your team on a great product - and bigger applause for the YouTube plugin. Brilliant.

Best wishes

Tim